Janet Milligan born 1847

[trish1120]

1861 Census
As Mosie is off-line;

35 St Albans Road,
Liscard, Cheshire
RG9/2648/45/8
(typed as transcribed)
John MILLIGAN, 41, Head, Mar, Stonemason
Micholas, 43, Wife, Mar
Mary Ann Bridge, 20, Daug, Mar, Carters Wife
James Milligan, 17, Son, Unm, Mason
John, 10, Son, Scholar, born Lancs, Liverpool
Samuel, 8, Son, Scholar, born Lancs, Liverpool
Joesph, 5, Son, Scholar, born Lancs, Liverpool
JANET, 3, Daug, born Lancs, Liverpool
Sarah, 3mths, Daug, born Cheshire, Liscard
John BRIDGE, 28, Son in Law, Mar, Carter, born Lancs, Bury
John McCORMICK, 52, Lodger, Masons Lab, born Ireland
All born Scotland unless otherwise stated

1851 Census we have;
Bootle, Lancs
HO107/
John MILLIIGAN, 32, Stonemason
Nicholas, 33
Mary A, 10
James, 7
Elizabeth, 5, born Bury, Lancs
John, 1mth, born Bootle, Lancs
Edward KIRK (Looks like Rush to me), 25, Lodger, Labourer, born Ireland

I see poor Nicholas is described as a Grandfather in 1881!

All others born Scotland

Trish

[trudym]

Thanks Trish, Yes i felt sorry for Nicholas as well,

Now another interesting point, I have not been able to ascertain whether Johns child Nicholas is boy or girl, but later on another descendant has a Nicholas and it becomes a boy.

Thank you for the confirmation of Janets age.  Question, were there two Janets and the first one died, or was the mistake on the Lancashire bmd index.

I did have the marriage of Mary Ann to John Bridge thanks. 

Thank you for the info, really appreciate the time taken by all to answer.

[trish1120]

It is possible there were 2 Janets and the 1st died. Unfortunately unless you have access to Parish Records you would have to find the Death Cert and purchase it to ascertian Parents Names.
Do you mean a Child of John Milligan born c 1851 has a Child Nicholas?

[trudym]

Yes, James McMurray Milligan, son of John and Nicholas, has a child Nicholas 7 August 1866 born West Derby and christened at
St Mary the Virgin, West Derby I put the child as female, until it was proven otherwise, but suspect she becomes a male.

[garstonite]

Hiya Trudy....that babtism is on
www.lan-opc.org.uk  but even on there it states Child of James and Alice ...babtised 28th Oct 1866 , born 7th August...
there is also a babtism for William James Milligan - same church and parents in January 1865  born 1st dec 1864
allan

[trish1120]

1871 census Nicholas is a Son. James Wife is Alice 10yrs older than him. Her children are living with them.
Marriage;
James Milligan, September 1864, West Derby, 8b 791
On the same page is Alice BOYER
If you need Census details let me know.

[garstonite]

1871 census Nicholas is a Son. James Wife is Alice 10yrs older than him. Her children are living with them.
Marriage;
James Milligan, September 1864, West Derby, 8b 791
On the same page is Alice BOYER
If you need Census details let me know.

You`re right Trish...they married at St John The Babtist, Toxteth,  on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
allan

[trudym]

Yes please trish.  Yes I do have James Wife Alice, they end up in St Helens, as well as tombstones of which we took photos I do have William James as well.  I dont know her children unfortunately, so the census would be a great help.   thanks But as we know with Census, Nicholas, mother of James was put down as Grandfather.  so I will have to organise birth certificate for Nicholas.
I found that Lancashire opc seemed to be more reliable, as longas the writing was transcribed.  Have found Milligans down as Mulligans, which is so easy to do.

[trish1120]

To save you a few pounds
Eng/Wales Christenings Records 1530-1906
Nicholas MILLIGAN, Male, Birth 1866, Christened 28 October 1866, West Derby, Lancashire.
Parents JAMES and ALICE

1871 Census
33 Town Row,
West Derby, Lancs
RG10/3848/148/33

James MILLIGAN, 27, Head, Mar, Stonemason, born Scotland
Alice Milligan, 37, Wife, Mar, born Huyton, Lancs
John BOYER, 17, Stepson, Joiner, born Knotty- Ash, Lancs
James Boyer, 15, Stepson, Scholar
Herbert Boyer, 13, Stepson, Scholar
William T Milligan, 6, Son
Nicholas Milligan, 4, Son
All others born West Derby, Lancs


1881 you can see for yourself on Familysearch but here is an outline;
James Milligan  37
Alice Milligan    48
William J. Milligan    16
Albert J. Milligan    14
So has Nicholas become Albert ?