William Peppitt

[Ladyhawk]

In 1859 there is a William Henry Dorricott, Shelton but unfortunately no mmn given.

You asked if Jane had been married before, I cannot see a marriage to John Dorrycott yet in the census they are living as married.

Evie

It may be worth thinking about ordering the 1859  birth record of William Henry DORRICOTT from Stafford BMD to confirm whether his mother's maiden name is PIPPETT, I don't know whether you can ring and make an inquiry.

I cannot find a marriage either for John DORRICOTT (have tried various spellings) to anyone named Jane 

The reason I asked whether Jane was married before is that her father is named as Samuel PEPPER on 1872 marriage to Job WARREN and she is named as Jane PIPPETT, if she had been married to John DORRICOTT wouldn't she have married Job using her married name 

marriage
Jane PIPPETT 40 (1832 father Samuel PEPPER
Job WARREN 38 (1834) father Stephen WARREN
17/06/1872 Wellington, Stafford
(I wonder who the witnesses were to this marriage) 

What about there being no father's name on the marriage certificate of William PEPPITT to Emma BAILEY in 1882 

Marriage
William PEPPITT age 23 (1859)
Emma BAILEY age 21 (1861) father Thomas
24/12/1882 Wellington, Stafford

This is the marriage of Sarah Jane

25/01/1882 St. John Hanley, Stafford
Sarah Jane DERRICOTT 19 (1863) father John DERRICOTT
Charles COPPICK 20 (1862) father Mow COPPICK

[Evie]

This family is mysterious to say the least. A couple of thoughts.

a) William fell out with his father John Dorricott and so refused to take his name
b) William found out his mother never married John Dorricott so refused to acknowledge his name
c) William could have been the child of Job Warren, as he is boarding with the family in 1861 and with Jane in 1871.

I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of this one

I agree I would have thought she would have married under her previous married name. Do you think Pepper may have been mistranscribed as in Peppett?

Evie

[Evie]

Hi

According to the 1851 census John and Jane are married, no children, living in Wolverhampton. John is from Radnorshire and Jane from Church Stoke, Montgomeryshire.

IGI have a baptism of Jane Poppet, 13 March 1828, Church Stoke, Montgomery, parents Samuel and Martha. Siblings include Martha 1814, Anne 1819 and Susanna 1822

[Ladyhawk]

This family is mysterious to say the least. A couple of thoughts.

a) William fell out with his father John Dorricott and so refused to take his name
b) William found out his mother never married John Dorricott so refused to acknowledge his name
c) William could have been the child of Job Warren, as he is boarding with the family in 1861 and with Jane in 1871.

I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of this one

I agree I would have thought she would have married under her previous married name. Do you think Pepper may have been mistranscribed as in Peppett?

Hi Evie,

Yes I was thinking along those same lines, you really need to see the original certificates to be absolutely certain

Unfortunately on IGI family search they only have the birth entry for
Sarah Jane DERRICOTT ch. 13/06/1863 St. John The Evangelist,  Hanley
father John DERRICOTT mother Jane

Was Jane PIPPETT/DERRICOTT noted as widowed on 1871 census and did you find the family in 1861

ADDED

Just saw your post so they were married by 1851

[Ladyhawk]

There's also this birth for

John DORRICOT 2/2/1834 Welshpool, Montgomery, Wales
father John DORRICOT mother Alice
residence Montgomery Wales

1841 census
John DORRICOTT age 7 birthplace Montgomery

**EDIT**

The one above is probably not the one with Jane as there's a death 1892  Jane remarried in 1872

John DERRICOTT
bn abt 1833
died 1892 Stoke on Trent

[Evie]

Hi Ladyhawk

It is quite difficult to see what has been put on the 1871 census for Jane as there is a thick black line over some of it, however I would say it is a 'W'.

In 1851 John was born c 1825 Knyton? Radnorshire with a brother James staying c1828 birth place the same as John's. I think the 1841 John may be a different one

Evie

[Evie]

In 1851 John was born c 1825 Knyton? Radnorshire

Evie

This family is such a nightmare - sorry Jane

Searching around I came across John Derricott born about 1824 as a patient at Penkhull, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire, widower, born Knighton, Radnorshire

To add to this there was in 1881 a George Derricott (age fits in with William's brother ) with Prudence and children John 8, Caroline 1, and John 5.

In 1891 we have Prudence,widow, John 16, Caroline 11, Jane 7, Albert 9, Emmie, 5 all called Pippet

Marriage George Peppit to Prudence Weston 1875 - can you add any details please Ladyhawk.

If this is William's brother I think we can assume that William Peppitt was William Dorricott, would value your opinions please.

Evie

[Ladyhawk]

Hi Evie,

This is the only detail of their marriage from Stafford BMD

1875 St. Mark. Shelton, Stafford
George PEPITT
Prudence WESTON

There’s this birth entry

Albert PEPPIT
4/1/1882 St. John Hanely, Stafford

Intrigued as to why George & William appear to be change their surname from DERRICOTT to PEPPITT on censuses 

It certainly could explain why William PEPPITT born 1859 Hanley, Stafford  cannot be found on any censuses prior to his marriage in 1882 to Emma BAILEY.

It’s a really strange and intriguing one

[Evie]

Hi Jane

I think I have done as much as I can on William Peppitt.

I would be interested on your thoughts and opinions on what Ladyhawk and I have found.

If you don't mind, I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Ladyhawk for her help, support and determination on this thread, she has kept me going when I have nearly gave up. What an enjoyable challenge, thank you

Evie