William Peppitt

[Ladyhawk]

Hi Evie,

Thank you so much for your help too - it's was very much appreciated 

This certainly was a challenge but I think you may have solved the mystery for Jane re: William PEPPITT.

I do hope  Jane comes back to the thread with some input as to whether any of the information we have provided has helped her in any way.

 

[Peppitts-Benistons]

Hi to you both

First of all thank you so much for all the help and hard work, I certainly would not have known where to start.
I will try, in the first instance, to send off for a birth certificate for William Derricot - c1859, Hanley, Staffs and see what it comes back with. I will of course let you know what I find out, hopefully it will fill in some or all of the blanks and enable me to go even further back.

One again many thanks 

speak soon

Jane

[Ladyhawk]

Hi to you both

First of all thank you so much for all the help and hard work, I certainly would not have known where to start.
I will try, in the first instance, to send off for a birth certificate for William Derricot - c1859, Hanley, Staffs and see what it comes back with. I will of course let you know what I find out, hopefully it will fill in some or all of the blanks and enable me to go even further back.

One again many thanks 

speak soon

Jane

Hi Jane,

I  noticed you have posted this request on the beginners board, if you want further details on any of the families listed you could put a separate request on the relevant board specific to the area (Staffordshire) and add the link from this post as this will show what info.'s. been found so far. You never know you may get lucky and someone there may be tracing the same family line as you.


I don't know if the following link will help you out but it may be worth a try  http://www.stoke.gov.uk/ccm/navigation/community--people-and-living/births--deaths--marriages-and-citizenship/certificates/tracing-your-family-tree/searches-of-indexes/
it looks as if you may be able to ring them or e-mail them with a specific request for information. You could then find out who the mother is of William Henry DORRICOTT bn 1859. If this proves to be Jane WARREN/DORRICOTT nee PIPPETT, that may be your connection.

Let us know how you get on

Good Luck

[Peppitts-Benistons]

Hi again

Thanks for that. I did try the sites you mentioned but no joy. However, I did find out a few things. In 1851 Jane Daricott was living with her husband, John, in Staffs, and again in 1861, with William, then aged 2, as Johns son. Also, they had a lodger, Job Warren. I think John died about 1863. In 1871 Jane was living at 45 West Street and Job Warren was still living at the same address as her, he was an Insurance man. So it seems she married the lodger! If John did die in 1863 it may explain why there is a blank space on Williams marriage certificate, he would have been too young to remember his father and possibly did not consider Job his father? I cannot, however, find a marriage for Jane and John, they both appear to have been born in Wales and in 1851 Johns brother James is living with them.

 It may be that they never actually married.

I have found a birth record for a William Derrycot, born December 1859 who I believe is our William, although he does not have a Henry in his name. i am tempted to send off for it but would like a little more information first as sending off for certificates is an expensive business.

I will persevere as I feel that I am close to finding them, all I need now is a marriage for Jane and John, if indeed they were married.

I will do as you suggested but thought I would update you a little more on the ongoing mystery,

Regards

Jane

[Evie]

Hi Jane

This is the birth you want I believe - I hope

William Henry Dorricot 1859, Stoke Upon Trent, 6b 170

Evie

[Evie]

Hi

A couple of reasons why I don't think John Derricot and Jane Pippet married are

1) She married Job Warren under her birth name and not her married name of Derricot

2) It looks as though John is still alive in 1901 - he is in the Stoke Upon Trent Union workhouse - born about 1822, Pillith, Radnorshire, Wales - as a widower!

John died, if it is the same one 1902, Stoke Upon Trent, aged 82

Evie

[Peppitts-Benistons]

Wow, he lived to a ripe old age. Well, it seems as if they had gone their seperate ways by 1871 and it seems odd that Job Warren was lodging with them in 1861 and 1871, one wonders if all the children were in fact John Derricots, the mind boggles.

I agree with you that they probably were not married, I have trawled through all the marraiges for that period, although there are so many variations of the spelling. I am also trying to find Janes parents, working on the theory that they were born about the beginning of the 1800's. This could go on and on but I think I will send off for Jane and Jobs marriage certificate in the first instance.

Thanks again for all your help, you are obviously an old hand at this

Jane

[Ladyhawk]

Hi Jane,

At least sending for the marriage certificate you will get more info. whether Jane was perhaps widowed and it will confirm Jane's fathers surname (I'm sure it's just a transcription error), also you will know who the witnesses were.

Jane PIPPETT age 40 father Samuel PEPPER
Job WARREN age 38 father Stephen WARREN
17/06/1872 Wellington, Stafford

Please let us know the outcome when you receive the certificate.

As to a marriage between Jane PIPPETT & John DERRICOTT, it does appear that they were not in fact married, I have also tried as many variations of both surnames but came up with nothing.

[Peppitts-Benistons]

Hi

Just wanted to quickly update you guys as you've been so helpful.

I received Williams birth certificate this morning. He was born 22/02/1859 in the sub district of Shelton, Stoke-on-Trent, William Henry - father John Dorricot, mother Jane Dorricot, formely Pepit. This doesn't indicate that they were married, however, I am wondering now if they were so will be trying to find out more. Obviously the many spellings of Dorricot and Peppitt stem from the fact that Jane was illiterate. John is down as being a Furnace Man.

I am still waiting for the marriage certificate of Jane to Job Warren so will let you know what that reveals, hopefully it will be here Monday.

Regards

Jane