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John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« on: Thursday 12 August 10 09:27 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out some information about John Jordan who was born in 1816 in Milford, Pembroke  (this information is from the 1881 census when it is stated he was 65 and a land owner living in Shropshire).

I would be most grateful if anyone could find out any information about his parents or if he had any brothers or sisters.

Many thanks

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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 August 10 11:36 BST (UK) »
I have had a quick look for him but cant find him with Parents in 1841. As he would be 25 then it is unlikely he would be at home.

Here they are in 1871;

1871 Census
Union St,
Holy Cross, Shropshire
RG10/2775/9/11
John Jordan     55, Head, Mar, dividends from Funds and Railway Shares, born Mimilford, Pembroke
Anne E Jordan    45, Wife, Mar, born Cardrith, Pembroke
Anna M Jordan, 16, Daug
Fanny A Jordan, 11, Daug
Alfred D Jordan, 9, Son
Sarah Burgwin, 16, Servant, House Maid
David Bunyon,    23, Servant, Groom
Children all born Pembroke, Pembrokeshire
Looks like Hannah M from 1881 Census is down as Anna M here.

I will see what else I can find.

Trish :)
   

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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 August 10 11:58 BST (UK) »
Marriage;
John JORDAN, June 1848, Pembroke, 26 1057
On the same page is Anne Elizabeth ORMOND

Buying the Marriage cert will give John and Anns Fathers names and occp.

Christenings, Familysearch Pilot, Extracted;
Frances Amelia JORDAN, 01 January 1860, Nash, Pembroke, Wales
Alfred Ormond JORDAN, 30 May 1861, Nash, Pembroke, Wales#
Anna Maria JORDAN, 26 January 1855, Saint Mary, Pembroke, Wales
Sarah Mary JORDAN, 18 April 1849, Saint Mary, Pembroke, Wales
All with Parents JOHN and ANNE ELIZABETH

#The Ormond was the hint for Annes Surname.
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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:12 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Main St,
Pembroke, St Mary, Pembrokeshire
HO107/1451/1/St Mary
John JORDAN, 26, Shopman
William JOHN, 23, Shopman
John JAMES, 21, Shopman
Richard PAYNTER, 16, Apprentice
John HUGHES, 16, Apprentice
All born in County

1851 Census, John is married to Anne and living in a large Household still in Main St, St Mary;
HO107/2476/338/13
John Jordan , 36, Head, Mar, Merchant Draper, born Llansstadwell, Pembroke
Ann Eliz Jordan, 27, Wife, Mar, born Carew, Pembroke
SARAH MARY Jordan, 2, Daug, born Pembroke, Pembroke
Ann Eliz Stronach    24
Joseph H Teasdale    22
John Kazzey    19
Henry James    17
Alexr Smith    15
George Edward    14
William Charralt    21
Martha Saunders    23
Mary Oriel    19
All the others work in the Shop.
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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:30 BST (UK) »
1861 Census;
Main St, St Mary
RG9/4155/4/2

John Jordan, 46, Merchant Shop Owner
Ann Elizabeth Jordan, 36, Wife
Frances Amelia Phillips, 1 (mistranscibed image is Jordan), Daug
+ Servants
Sarah is either away or deceased

Good luck with the Marriage Cert :)
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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 August 10 12:41 BST (UK) »
Anna Maria born c 1855 is visiting with the Ormonds in 1861;
1861 Census
Cardeath, Carew, Pembroke, Wales
RG9/4152/21/7

William ORMOND, &1?, Head, Mar, Farmer, born Pembroke, Carew
Sarah Elizth, 70, Wife, Mar, born London
Anna Maria JORDAN, 6, Visitor, born Pembroke
Maria ANDREWS, 3, Visitor, born Liverpool
+ several servants
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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 August 10 14:40 BST (UK) »
Trish,

Thank you so much for all your research on John Jordan.

One question - who do I contact to purchase his marriage certificate and how much does it cost (I'm new to this and don't know where to contact)

Many thanks again

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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 August 10 16:25 BST (UK) »
Hi radnor,
You can purchase it from here for abt 9pounds. It is the only way to be sure you have the right Father for John. When you receive it post details and myself or others will help you more.
There are a few Trees with John on them but no one seems to have got the Cert to confirm his details!
So even though you are new to research at least you are being thorough.
There are so many Johns that without other info it is hard to find his Family.
Best of luck,
Trish :)

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Re: John Jordan born 1816 in Milford, Pembroke
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 August 10 18:15 BST (UK) »
The following may assist your research ;
From my transcription of the Parish Registers of Pembroke St Mary 1711 to the 1950’s from the register which covers 1847 to 1895 I note
18 Apr 1849 Sarah May to John & Anne Elizabeth Jordan of Pembroke a Draper by W.M.D. Berrington
26 Jan 1855 Anna Maria to John & Anne Elizabeth Jordan of St Mary a Draper by C. Douglas
09 Dec 1868 Martha to Jacob and Elizabeth Jordan of Lammaston St Michael a labourer by Henry S. Blink
16 Oct 1872 Mary to Jacob and Elizabeth Jordan of Lammaston Hill St Michael a labourer by Henry S. Blink
From the same Parish Registers but from the register which covers Burials for the period 1839 to 1882 I note
Martha Jordan of Dunn’s Row buried 17 July 1864 aged 06 months by D.W. Morris
Sarah Mary Jordan of Pembroke buried 27 May 1856 aged 07 yrs by Charles Douglas.

For future reference
From my transcription of the Parish Registers of Pembroke St Michael 1711 to the 1950’s from the register which covers mrges 1837 to 1908 I note
03 Mar 1897 Isaac Jordan aged 25 a bach and Mason of Williamston the son of Isaac Jordan (dec’d) a labourer married Sarah Johns aged 33 a spinster of East End Square the dau of Daniel Johns a Farmer by licence in front of Rees Davies. Both signed their names in the presence of Dan Johns, Margaret Johns and John Kennea
10 Oct 1854 Jacob Jordan of full age a labourer of Kingston the son of Abraham Jordan a labourer mrd Elizabeth Colliers of full age a spinster and servant of Kinston the dau of William Collins a labourer by banns in front of W.M.D. Berrington. Both made their mark in the presence of James (X) Thomas and Jane (X) Williams.

From my database of Burgess of Pembroke Borough 1678 to 2006 I note
Barret Bowen Jordan Esquire of Herbandstone Neeston made burgess 26 Jan 1795 Admin Bk 4 Page 121 Minute Bk page 150
John Jordan Esquire made burgess 10 Nov 1766 Admin Bk 4 Page 04 Minute Bk page 12
John Jordan Esquire made burgess 08 Jan 1753 Admin Bk 1 Page 51
William Jordan Steward made burgess 09 Dec 1765 Admin Bk 3 Page 125 Minute Bk page 10

I believe that Anne Elizabeth Ormond was baptized at Carew in 1824. My findings would appear to be confirmed by the IGI, which you can consult for full details. I can give you parents mrge if required.

Have you consult the free Jordan wills on the NLoW website, there are a number there that will benefit your research.

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