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Mervyn O'Gorman - looking 4 Christine & ?
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 03:40 BST (UK) »
 Christine O'Gorman photographed at Lulworth Cove, by her Father, Mervyn O'Gorman.

Mervyn dies 1958 at Brighton.  Looking to find what happened to Christine.  Siblings?  Did she marry?  any children?

Dr. Mervyn Archdall NOTT Crawford our ancestor in common.

I've written to every online post with the pictures   &/or Mervyn but no-one knows anything    ???.  He was important in early 1900's aviation & military, wrote the driving manual, photographer ...

Best Regards  from California,    Katie
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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 08:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Katie

As you probably know, Mervyn Joseph Pius O'gorman (b.19 Dec 1871 Ireland, son of Edmund A O'Gorman of Harrogate) (d.16 March 1958 in Chelsea) married Florence Catherine Rasch in 1897 (not in the UK).  Florence died 2 Oct 1931 in Chelsea and left her estate of £14.5k to her husband.  From the 1911 census index I can't see any children with them in Chelsea.  And I can't see a Christine or Christina O'Gorman anywhere in the UK.  Are you certain Christine was his daughter and not, perhaps, a niece?  Dazey

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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 09:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Katie

I've just spotted that Mervyn's wife, Florence, was 74 when she died - although her christening record in Camden gives her date of birth as 26 Oct 1853 - meaning she was about 43/44 when she married Mervyn in 1897.  It's possible, of course, but quite a late age to start having children.  How old would you say Christina looks in the 1913 photos?  Dazey

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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 18:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Dazey999,

Yes, your correct, copied the 1911 census & no Christine.  I couldn't find them on the 1901.

All the photo sites say, "Christine is Mervyns' daughter", is all I know. 

OOPs! checked my facts, Mervyn died at home, 21 Embankment Gardens, Chelsea.  ( Why did I think Brighton  ???  Wonder who that was, no matter )
Same obituary story says he married Florence in 1897.  She would be about age 43 then. 

I don't remember seeing any dates on the photographs.  That would help figure out Christine's possible age.  Reasons she may not be on the 1911; away at school, visiting - not home, not born? ( after 13 years? ) 

 ;D  Katie




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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 18:04 BST (UK) »
Hey Dazey999,

That was stupid, Duh!  You wrote the photos were 1913!  I can only guess then she could be about 16 at the oldest?

 8)  Katie
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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 18:23 BST (UK) »
Dazey999,

p.s.  Forgot to say the obituary I have is from, 'Oxford Dictionary of National Biography'.  I can't get this from home. My sister-in-law copied it for me using the Berkeley University library subscription.   Should I post it here?

I also put a "looking for information" post, on England's genweb site for County Dorset.  Asking if anyone about Lulworth Cove knew anything?  I looked at using google satellite, a beautiful ClamShell Cove.  Would love to see in person.

Katie
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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 20:01 BST (UK) »
The girls could indeed have been away at school in 1911, but no sign of any of them in 1901 either!  What a mystery!  They're not in Ireland in 1901 or 1911 either.  I'll keep looking!  Dazey

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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 21:21 BST (UK) »
I've found Mervyn & Florence in the 1901 census:

RG13; Piece: 936; Folio: 16; Page: 24
10 Palmeira Square, Hove
transcribed as Mervyn J O Gorma
they were visiting Charles G Heathcok
No children with them, I'm afraid


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Re: O'GORMAN MERVYN - looking 4 Christine & ?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 August 10 21:25 BST (UK) »
There's a Christina O'Gorman in 1911 Irish census age 13-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Dungarvan_No__1_Urban/St__Mary_Street/663177/
parents are James and Mary O'Gorman and they have 11 children so it's possible that some of the children would have gone to stay with relatives
In 1901 the family are here with lots of other relatives-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Dungarvan_No__1/St__Mary_s_Street/1770907/
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!