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hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« on: Monday 30 August 10 12:26 BST (UK) »
im sorry if any of this is confusing below i will do my best to try and explain,

my father was harry davies b 1946 manchester died 2004
his father was also harry davies born march 1922 manchester with parents
thomas davies. annie davies/jones/davies as on his birth certificate, harry senior married isabella cox in 1952 and according to  that his father was harry davies!!! a stone quarryman,

i have searched and searched and cant find anything about this man at all

can anyone help please

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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 August 10 12:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Dawn
Its confused me as well lol.
Does this mean that Harry snr married twice? Or
in those days one of the popular names was
Thomas Henry so Harry could have been used as
his name but maybe he had to put his first known name
down instead?
Just suggestions. 
I did look on Lancashire BMD but cant find either the births
or the marriage for some reason.
Maybe someone else might have a better idea for you
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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 August 10 12:45 BST (UK) »
The birth registration for Harry Davies  born 1946 shows the mothers name as Cox.

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Birth

 
Name: DAVIES, Harry
 
Registration District:   Manchester
 
County:  Lancashire
 
Year of Registration:  1946
 
Quarter of Registration:  Oct-Nov-Dec
 
Mother's Maiden Name: Cox
 
Volume No:  10E
 
Page No: 86
 

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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 August 10 12:47 BST (UK) »
Is it the third Harry Davies you're looking for?  On the 1901 census I've found a family where both the father and a son are called Harry Davies - which does seem to be a theme here!  They're at 1 Holly Cottages, Meole Brace nr Shrewsbury  RG13/2541/~F59

Harry Davies age 31 stonemason born Welshpool Montgomeryshire
Eliza Davies age 31 wife born Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire
Harold G Davies age 2 son born Meole Brace
Richard Griffiths age 72 father in law born Shrewbury
Jane L Morgan age 42  boarder

Possibly no link at all!
Heather

p.s. I hadn't noticed the Thomas/Harry thing in your original post so shows how much attention I was paying!
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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 August 10 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hi  :)

You say Snr married COX in 1952. But Jnr was born in 1946?

Are your father's parents both deceased?
Are you 100% certain you have the correct birth for your grandfather (1922)?
And the correct marriage for your grandfather (1952)?

Not asking you to name names (privacy) but did you father have any siblings - in which case would be interesting to know what their marriages said about their father, especially good to check if he had an older and a younger sibling.

What was the  father's occupation on both the 1922 and 1946  Birth certs?

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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 August 10 13:22 BST (UK) »
oh heres my thoughts and findings so far,

that my grandads dad, could they have been brothers?

my grand dad harry's mum (annie) it appears that she was born a davies, then married a jones, then either split up with mr jones or he died and she either reverted to her maiden name or married thomas???

the only entry i can find for annie jones marying a harry davies was in 1944 but i dont know if either thats the right couple or if it was thomas as in harry thomas or thomas harry (henry) or what ever shortened version it could be!!!!!

yeah im confused big time i know!!!

the way its looking at the moment is that i will have to wait for 20 yrs for the cencus to appear for the right time frame.

only other thing to go on was that on grand dad harries wedding certificate it states his father harry was a stone quarryman,  

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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 August 10 13:28 BST (UK) »
Hi  :)

You say Snr married COX in 1952. But Jnr was born in 1946?

Are your father's parents both deceased?
Are you 100% certain you have the correct birth for your grandfather (1922)?
And the correct marriage for your grandfather (1952)?

Not asking you to name names (privacy) but did you father have any siblings - in which case would be interesting to know what their marriages said about their father, especially good to check if he had an older and a younger sibling.

What was the  father's occupation on both the 1922 and 1946  Birth certs?

Cheers
AMBLY



You say Snr married COX in 1952. But Jnr was born in 1946?
yep thats correct

Are your father's parents both deceased?
Are you 100% certain you have the correct birth for your grandfather (1922)?
And the correct marriage for your grandfather (1952)?


yes
yes
yes

im totally 110% certain that this is correct as i have the family in their graves at manchester southern cemetary.

give me 10 mins to dig out the birth certs to recheck the occupations

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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 August 10 13:32 BST (UK) »
Is it the third Harry Davies you're looking for?  On the 1901 census I've found a family where both the father and a son are called Harry Davies - which does seem to be a theme here!  They're at 1 Holly Cottages, Meole Brace nr Shrewsbury  RG13/2541/~F59

Harry Davies age 31 stonemason born Welshpool Montgomeryshire
Eliza Davies age 31 wife born Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire
Harold G Davies age 2 son born Meole Brace
Richard Griffiths age 72 father in law born Shrewbury
Jane L Morgan age 42  boarder

Possibly no link at all!
Heather

p.s. I hadn't noticed the Thomas/Harry thing in your original post so shows how much attention I was paying!


thanks for trying but thats not the right family at all

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Re: hellllllllllllllllllllllp please big brickwall
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hi dawnkaren,

Have you got Thomas and Annie's death dates to give us an idea of when they were born?