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Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« on: Tuesday 31 August 10 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi
Can anyone help me trying to find more info on these people Lucy Abbott born c1892 Bosford?Basford? Kirkby Nottingham and Jesse Abbott born c 1893 Bosford?Basford? Kirkby Nottingham. Keep hitting a brick wall with my Abbott's any help would be great

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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 12:10 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat

1901
High St Horbury Yorks
Jesse Abbott Head 31 Railway Navvy Black Downs Devon
Pollie wife 30 Washerwoman Ripley Yorks
Eliza daughter 13 Nottingham
Annie daughter 11Nottingham
LUCY daughter 9 Kirby Notts
JESSIE daughter 8 Kirkby Notts
James son 4 Birstall Yorks
Clara daughter 2 Birstall Yorks
Alice daughter 1 Birstall Yorks
RG13 4287 109 38

Basford is the registration district for BMD's in Kirkby- and covers parts of Nottinghamshire and parts of Derbyshire. It does not mean they were born in Basford town which is approx 10 miles from Kirkby

also in 1901 Pollie (mother's) place of birth is given as Ripley Yorks - in 1891 it is Ripley Derbys -which are 2 different places many miles apart

I will see if I can find Pollie's birth reg (and maiden name)- I suspect she may have been born Ripley Derbys (which is in Belper reg district)
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 12:27 BST (UK) »
1891
1 Fishers Row
Nuncar gate
Kirkby in Ashfield Notts
Jesse Abbott head m 25 Fireman Black Downs devon
Pollie wife 26 Ripley  Derbys
Eliser (maybe should be Eliza?) daughter 4 Nottingham
Annie sister U 17 Evercreech Somerset
William brother U 30 Excavator Shepton Mallet Somerset
John Wetstone visitor U 18 coal miner's labourer northampton
William Thompson visitor U 50 Navvy Wiltshire
RG12 2661 111 56

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 12:48 BST (UK) »
Pollie/Polly is often a nickname for Mary Ellen (as Sally is for Sarah Ellen)
There is a marriage reg  FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1886
Belper district
7b 1019

on same page
Jesse Abbott
Mary Arnott


1911 census (which we are not allowed to post details of -copyright issues etc) "Pollie" is using the name "Mary" - you can search the index free

Seems she just married using the name mary Arnott -but she was really mary Ellen Arnott b Ripley Derbys

If you wish me to find this family further back please ask

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 12:57 BST (UK) »
Birth registrations for Lucy & Jessie

Lucy Abbott
Dec qtr 1891
Basford
7b 144

Jessie Abbott
Sept qtr 1893
basford
7b 137

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 13:05 BST (UK) »
You may have noticed in 1901 there is an 11 yr old daughter Annie Abbott -but she does not appear with the family in 1891

she was visiting with some of the Arnott family

1891
Crossley St Ripley derbys
Emma Taylor head M 32 Ripley Derbys
M. A. daughter 11 Ripley derbys
Lucy A Arnott visitor widow 61 Denby Derbys
Eliza Arnott visitor U 23 Ripley derbys
ANNIE ABBOTT visitor 1 Nottingham

RG12 2745 95 14

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 13:53 BST (UK) »
Hello Suz, really sorry not use to this site, thank you very much , I have been searching high and low for Annie Abbott , and I  did wonder how Polly became Mary..

I will send for certificates and hopefully will be able to tick a few more boxes.

Andrea

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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 14:07 BST (UK) »
"Pollie's"maiden name could be Arnott or Amott - it varies from census to census

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Abbotts Born Bosford Kirby Notts?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 16:49 BST (UK) »
Hello....

a bit more to add to Suz' finds which may help....

Marriage at Ripley - 25th Dec 1886 - after banns
JESSE ABBOTT, age 23, Bach,Labourer, residence Ripley - father  James Abbott, labourer
MARY AMOTT,aged 24, spinster, residence Ripley - father William Abbott, lab
witnesses - Clara Kay & William Hampson

Amongst other things you can access christenings, marriages and burials for Ripley here =
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

The transcript I have for Ripley does gives the witnesses to the marriage but the pilotsearch site doesn't give those details.