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Re: STOYLE & LEE Carpenters & Builders US lookup
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 25 September 10 08:55 BST (UK) »
The front of the house is a bit odd (I thought).† It wasn't until John mentioned the height of the windows in reference to snow that now makes me wonder if the house (and property) is actually lower than the level of the road?

If you look at the door and frame, it is just "there", there doesn't appear to be a threshold.† What is next to the man, the two supports with a bar?† It could be used for horses, or maybe not.† Looking at the man in relation to the gate behind him, allowing for differences between items in the background, he still seems a bit tall to be standing on the same level as the gate.† Could there be a step down to the front door, and a step down to the driveway (which would be a good reason to have the railing across the front of the house, where there might not be a step down)?† There appears to be a line on the ground where the man is standing, that runs from him to the next building.† Could this indicate that the property is lower than the road?† Also, if the man is on the same road level as the door, still allowing for distance and perspective, he seems too tall for the door.† †???

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Hello Lisa,
Thanks for replying.

Firstly there isn't any snow! I think the photo is just bright, possibly sunlight.
The door has 2/3 steps down which is why (I suspect) there's a bar round the window to stop people falling down.He's standing, or rather perching, on a small step to the driveway. Due to the way he is standing his heels are lower than his toes which makes him look tall(er) in perspective to the trellis gate behind him. Having said that though he does appear to be a tall guy anyway.

Where the lower ink "x" is the drop looks much lower a good 6" so yes the property beyond is lower than road level.
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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 25 September 10 09:00 BST (UK) »
I've added a enlargement of the sign. It's definitely STOYLE & LEE!
The big disappointment is they left out the telephone number....which probably would've solved it!!
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« Reply #29 on: Saturday 25 September 10 15:10 BST (UK) »
Hi 001uk: They may not have put a phone number on the sign because at the time the photo was taken they might not have had a telephone. What looks like a bare tree trunk in the front of the photo on the left may actually be a telephone pole. It has wires wrapped around it. These may be guy wires or they might be telephone wires.

The foliage on the left is attached to the branches that you can see just behind the pole in front.

Could you enlarge the right side of the photo (showing the pole) and attach it?

Regards,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts


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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 25 September 10 15:16 BST (UK) »
Could the bar in front of the window (you can also see that there seems to be one to the left of the front door) be a hitching post for carriage horses? As well as protecting the house itself.

Incidentally, you can see the drop off by looking at the foundation, which in front is about as high as the fellow's knees.

John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: STOYLE & LEE Carpenters & Builders US lookup
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 25 September 10 15:17 BST (UK) »
He wasn't a good speller, or at least his sign maker wasn't.

Don't you think it's too tall to be a utility pole?

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I have looked for Edward Stoyle in 1920 on Ancestry. †No luck. †And I haven't found any immigration record for him, either.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: STOYLE & LEE Carpenters & Builders US lookup
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 25 September 10 16:00 BST (UK) »
ďI had these done 4 months ago, purposely to send you, the chance came and I took the opportunity to have them done, just to show what Sally? wrote home to say Tom was manager of at 10 £ a week, she is the bloodiest liar.  TedĒ


Does this say Sally?  And who would she have been?  Tedís wife?  Tomís wife?  Or maybe a sister?
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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« Reply #33 on: Saturday 25 September 10 16:02 BST (UK) »
Yes, it was obvious that the sign maker did the work too "promtly."

The only thing that makes me question whether it's a telephone pole is that it appears to a little crooked--to the right. But that could be an effect created by the tree foliage.

ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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« Reply #34 on: Saturday 25 September 10 16:10 BST (UK) »
Hi 001uk: They may not have put a phone number on the sign because at the time the photo was taken they might not have had a telephone. What looks like a bare tree trunk in the front of the photo on the left may actually be a telephone pole. It has wires wrapped around it. These may be guy wires or they might be telephone wires.

The foliage on the left is attached to the branches that you can see just behind the pole in front.

Could you enlarge the right side of the photo (showing the pole) and attach it?

Regards,
John† :o :o :o

Hi John,
Yes, quite so re the telephone. Perhaps they were waiting to be connected or it had changed.
The "bare tree trunk" may well be a phone pole but as it goes up it narrows. Was this normal in that part of the world? In the UK we had (and still do have) uniform wooden poles.There are wires strapped around it but are certainly guys keeping something taught/in place and are not telephone cables.However, there are cables running along level with the apex of the roof.Four in total but they are faint and will not come up on a scan.
I have also just noticed metal pegs running up the "bare tree trunk" directly facing, taking over where the wooden steps finish.

There is no pole at the right! At the far edge there's a lot of ivy growing up to where the leaves start. This is a building.

Thanks for your continued interest~Paul

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« Reply #35 on: Saturday 25 September 10 16:10 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Erato link=topic=479933.msg3435400#msg3435400 date=1285426817

Does this say Sally?† And who would she have been?† Tedís wife?† Tomís wife?† Or maybe a sister?

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It certainly looks like Sally. She could be wife, sister, relative, friend.

The trouble is finding any sign of Stoyle in the U.S.
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts