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Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« on: Thursday 02 September 10 15:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

Shadrach is my GGG Grandfather born Whipsnade 1825.

The mystery surrounds a change of surname. On his daughter Eliza's wedding certificate they both have "Grace" as their surname, after 1860 however, the family name changes and all census' after this date declare the surname to be "Jackson" I can only suppose they were trying to avoid detection perhaps for debt etc, has anyone else come across this  - or do you have Shadrach in your tree and have already solved the mystery??  :)
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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 September 10 17:00 BST (UK) »
Have you traced Shadrach's parents? It's possible his family used both names.

There seems to be a Ebenezer Jackson Grace and an Edwin Jackson Grace who married in Luton; their father is a Thomas b. abt 1821 Whipsnade and they also appear on the 1861 and 1871 censuses as "Jackson".
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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 September 10 17:23 BST (UK) »
thanks for this  -sounds interesting
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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 September 10 14:31 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have found these baptisms, with mother Ann,

Thomas GRACE
10 NOV 1793 Studham, Bedford

EDWARD GRACE
08 APR 1798 Studham
 
JOHN GRACE
30 MAY 1803 Studham, Bedford


It looks like Thomas marries Mary Ann GEORGE,


Thomas GRACE
Mary GEORGE 
Marriage:  06 May 1820   Whipsnade, Bedford


This would fit as in 1861 Shadrach JACKSON has an Aunt and Uncle, Ann and Thomas GEORGE living with them.
 



The 1841 census has,

1841  HO107/5/38  f.4  p.2  &  f.5  p.3    Whipsnade
Deadmansey Wood

JACKSON
Thomas     40    Ag Lab
Mary        30
Thomas    20
John         15
Shadric     15
Emma       14
William      12
Edward     10
Sidney       8
Mary         6
David       10 months         

All born Bedfordshire apart from Thomas Snr, but it looks like Studham was on the Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire border,

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BDF/Studham/index.html



Then in 1851 they are still JACKSON,

1851  HO107/1757  f.220  p.10  Whipsnade
Deadmoney Wood

JACKSON
Thomas      Head    59    Agricultural Labourer       Beds Studham
Mary Ann    Wife    54                                      Beds Houghton Regis
Mary Ann    Daur    13    Straw Plaiter                 Beds Whipsnade
David          Son    10                                           "          "

but then in 1861 they are GRACE ???


1861  RG9/1011  f.106  p.1  Kensworth, Hertfordshire
South side of Kensworth

GRACE
Thomas    Head    Wid    72    Agricultural Labourer    Bedfordshire Studham
David         Son     Un    20    Matter                          Bedfordshire Whipsnade   



So it looks like the GRACE/JACKSON query could come from Shadrach's father Thomas. Do you have Shadrach's marriage certificate to check who is father was?


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Daisy
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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 September 10 14:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

thanks for all the work you have done on my query! I think the next port of call has to be Shadrach's wedding certificate as you  have suggested  :)
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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 March 15 19:08 GMT (UK) »
I know this thread is old, I bookmarked it years ago and just joined, then found it again.

Did you ever find out a definitive reason for the Jackson/Grace name change?  We have been puzzling over it on this side of the pond as well.  Shadrack was my 2x great grand uncle, his younger sister Emma was my GG Grandmother.

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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
 Welcome to RootsChat :)

I'm not related and was just trying to help Jeannie68 find some info. so I haven't searched any further. It looks like she hasn't been here since 2013 and never posted whether she got Shadrach's wedding certificate.

If you haven't found a baptism for Shadrach either as GRACE or JACKSON yet I would suggest that you get the marriage cert. just to confirm that Thomas was his father, and if there is any other info. that might help. The 1841 census doesn't show relationships so it is possible that he isn't.

Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Shadrach Grace/Jackson
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Daisy.  Unfortunately for me, I am a good 10 hour flight from Heathrow, so I'll have to wait to find out.  I had a couple of theories, that they were a couple, had kids, then got married.  Emma Grace has had a lot written about her, and I find her referred to as Emma Grace in all of the LDS literature on her, except my g grandfather's eulogy, from 1948, where she is referred to as 'Emma Jackson.'  That was a bit more than 50 years after she died.
I am very interested in these families that populate this area around Beds/Bucks/Herts, as they seemed to have been there generations, and a chunk of them, Graces, Austins, Webbs, Hugheses, Turners and a few more got swept up in Mormonism and left for Utah over a 20 or so year period.