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Related to Mary Queen of Scotts?? :S
« on: Friday 03 September 10 21:13 BST (UK) »
I am just beginning to look into my family history and my mother says that my Great Grandfather used to say our family can be traced back to Mary Queen of Scots. Which would be AWESOME! :) If its true.

Now.. i have to talk to my grandmother and find out where any records would be or if she knows anything. then im going to try look back further than that if possible... if anyone has any tips of knows how or where i should start pleas let me know:)

My Great Grandfather was a Roberts but i know my grandmother has a book with a couple of generations going back written in it so wish me luck :)

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Re: Related to Mary Queen of Scotts?? :S
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 September 10 21:37 BST (UK) »
Should not be too difficult to check. Mary - Queen of Scots - had only one child who reached adulthood and that was James VI of Scotland, our King James I.

James I had only 2 children who reached adulthood - Charles I and Elizabeth of Bohemia, both rulers. Of those only Charles had any offspring outside the royal family - perhaps quite a few! So it would be a bit surprising to be descended from Mary without being descended also from James and Charles.

Good luck in your search. The way to go about this is the one we all have taken. Start with those ancestors you know - your mother, father and hopefully their parents. That is pretty easy. Get the true facts.

Next, you may be back the best part of 75 years by then [my grandmother was born in 1869 but I am old myself]. Then you can look at your book and see if it offers further clues. From there it is using the censuses back to 1841, obtaining birth, marriage and sometimes death certificates back to 1837. After that it is parish records that are needed. If you ancestral line is really distinguished there may be lots of detail freely available going far back.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Related to Mary Queen of Scotts?? :S
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 September 10 11:41 BST (UK) »
I would think it unlikely that you could be related to Mary Queen of Scots without knowing, if she was in your direct line.  But she might be a distant cousin - that would take quite a bit of unravelling, I think.

Maybe your gt grandfather meant your family could be traced back to the era of Mary Queen of Scots, which would still be quite impressive for those of us struggling in the 1700s!
Chowns in Buckinghamshire
Broad, Eplett & Pope in St Ervan/St Columb Major, Cornwall
Browning & Moore in Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Emms, Mealing & Purvey in Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham in Norfolk
Higho in London
Matthews & Nash in Whichford, Warwickshire
Smoothy, Willsher in Coggeshall & Chelmsford, Essex

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 September 10 11:52 BST (UK) »
It would be brilliant for you if you could prove a link like that, but as Hackstaple says, you have to start with what you know and work back.
There have been some very interesting threads discussed in the lighter side / common room around family stories we were brought up with and the reality we find when we go researching.
I've also got a 'family story' link back to Scottish Royalty, but my family story was always clear that it was on the wrong side of the blanket - and I don't think there's any way of proving even that - perhaps you will be more fortunate!   The very best of luck with it, and if you want help post what you already have that is definite (providing the people aren't alive) and everyone on this board will give you a lot of help iand support in working back from there
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 September 10 15:09 BST (UK) »
haha. yah i highly doubt that its true. just cool if it was :P and i doubt i would be able to search back that far anyways.

i have to wait until the next time i go to my grandmothers house and she lives on a different island from me so it might be a month or so.

But in the mean time im looking into my grandfather's side of the family by looking at papers from some censuses that my mother found. I have gotten back as far as the early like 1800's maybe late 1700's (when they were born anyway), but i cant remember exactly when they were born. but they were from somewhere in england. Uley  or somewhere in that area i think.

 i did a surname post on here with my great great great great, etc... grandmother. Her name was Elizabeth Emma Bright ( Finnear was her surname)

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 September 10 15:32 BST (UK) »
post deleted - confusion over surnames
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 September 10 16:01 BST (UK) »
Uley - you say. Then you may find these extracts interesting:
http://www.glosgen.co.uk/uleyreg.htm
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 September 10 17:32 BST (UK) »
Well.. imost of the people on the list we had, were from the gloucester area i remember at least one was from Uley and there were a couple people from Nympsfield, also Cheltenham.

we have a list of a couple generations back and it doesnt say when Elizabeth Emma Finnear (she married John Bright) was born or where she was born, but it says when her daughter was born.

Her daughter was Naomi Alice Bright (married James Fredrick Henry Poulton). She was born on  9 Mar 1877
and died 10 Dec 1963.


I also know that her husband's sister Elizabeth Anne Poulton ( married Joseph Elliot). She was a parlour maid for the Stewart Fripp family of Bristol.

I tried to find some info on that but no luck. Probably just not looking in the right place :)

Hope this helps.. anything else that would be helpfull let me know and ill see what i know

 Im real glad for the help :D

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Re: Related to Mary Queen of Scotts?? :S
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 September 10 17:45 BST (UK) »
Related to Mary Queen of Scots - possible I suppose from the wrong side of the blanket - same story in my family but never been able to prove it.

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