1901 Census Huntingdon John James H B Whysall

[Designer Jeans]

Hi

Can anyone let me have details of the Whysall family of John James H B Whysall who was born in Huntingdon in 1900 please?

All help would be much appreciated

Regards
Valerie

[Mort29]

This lad? (names reversed)

Births Mar 1900   
 
Whysall  James John H B    Huntingdon  3b 288


Theres a plain James in 1901, staying with parents James & Cissy, Grandmother Caroline in Nottingham - but his PoB is stated as Derby.

RG13; Piece: 3171; Folio: 72; Page: 11 Nottingham - 300, Meadow Lane
 
Caroline E Whysall 60 Head Widow born Salop, Bridgnorth: Monthly Nurse
James E Whysall 23 son born Derbyshire, 'Castle'(?) Greasley: Brass Moulder
Cissy Whysall 23 Dau (inLaw) born Leic, Ashby de la Zouche
Henry Cook 48 Son in Law born Notts: Coal Miner
Esther A Cook 29 Dau born Derby, Codnor: Saltpacker
James Whysall 1 Grandson born Derby
William H Pitwood 7 grandson ditto
Philip E Pitwood 5 grandson Coalville
James A Pitwood 3 grandson Derby

Thomas Smith 22 Lodger


Given that he is James -E- this may be his marriage - I guess Cissy is a petname .. so maybe its Eliza Burton his spouse?

Marriages Jun 1899   
 
Blount  Emmanuel Buxton    Derby  7b 1130   
Burton  Eliza     Derby  7b 1130   
Redfern  Mary Ann     Derby  7b 1130   
Whysall  James Edwin     Derby  7b 1130   



Have you tried the 1911 census?

[Designer Jeans]

Hi

Very many thanks for the info, this looks highly likely (I made a mistake and the christian names are James John).

I am very curious about the name Burton.  James John's grandson's middle name is Burton, so Cissy/Eliza Burton looked like a good fit, but I have checked Caroline too and her maiden name was Burton as well!?

Unfortunately I don't have access to the 1911 census, but I shall make a new post and see if anyone is able to help.

Once again, many thanks for taking the time and trouble to help.

Best wishes
Valerie

[bedfordshire boy]

Unfortunately I don't have access to the 1911 census,

Everyone has free access to the 1911 index at http://www.1911census.co.uk/

It costs a few pounds to buy the minimum number of credits to view the transcript of the full entry

[Mort29]

Eliza Burton (shown on the Derby District marriage) was certainly from Ashby dlZ

The 1891 census of Litchurch parish, Derby shows the family - RG12; Piece: 2735; Folio 42; Page 29
 
John Burton 43 Head of household born Ashby dlZ: a Coach Body Maker
Eliza Burton 39 Wife born Staffs, West Bromwich
Joseph Burton 16 son Litchurch
John Henry Burton 15 son ditto
Eliza Burton 13 dau Ashby dlZ
Oliver Burton 11 son Litchurch
Hephzibah E Burton 9 dau ditto



1881 RG11; Piece: 3400; Folio: 65; Page: 32 Derby St Werburgh, 40 Belgrave Street

(somewhat mistranscribed as Eliya Barton !)


Turning to Caroline E. - FreeBMD has 2 seperate original images - both defining the same Basford District Marriage in 1861, but one shows her as BURTON and one as BARTON - need to go back to the 1851 census of Bridgnorth I guess .....

Marriages Sep 1861   
 
Barton Caroline Elizabeth    Basford  7b 146    (actual different original image transcribed
Burton  Caroline Elizabeth     Basford  7b 146    than this one !)
Wardle  Mary     Basford  7b 146   
WEBSTER  James     Basford  7b 146   
Whysall  Henry Fletcher     Basford  7b 146   


 
..... which does confirm the name as BURTON (in Staffs - HO107; Piece: 2019; Folio: 49; Page: 16 - Wolverhampton)

[Jaytilson]

  Hope this helps !

                                1911 census

24 Brand Street, Meadow Lane, Nottingham

Whysall  James Edwin   Head    Married    age 33     Birth year 1878   Brass Moulder    born Church Greasley, Leicestershire.
Whysall Eliza                 Wife      Married 12 years   age  33       birth year 1878             born Ashby de la  Zouch, Leicestershire.
Whysall James J. H.B.    son       age 11      birth year 1900         school                               born Huntingdon, Hants.
Whysall Oliver Edwin     son       age   9       birth year  1902        school                               born Nottingham, Notts.
Whysall Albert Ernest    son       age    7      birth year   1904       school                               born Nottingham, Notts.
Whysall Ivy Irene          dau       age     1     birth year   1910                                                born Nottingham,Notts.                                             

[Designer Jeans]

Hi guys

I had mistakenly assumed my thread was finished and haven't checked roots chat for a while, so have only just found your really helpful responses.

Grateful thanks for taking the trouble to help and for the excellent info you have sent to me.

Best wishes
Valerie

[Mort29]

blimey, how did that get past old eagleeyes   

[Designer Jeans]

Hi

It's all a bit odd, I didn't get topic replies either to alert me that I had responses to reply to?

Valerie