Albert E RICHARDS Redruth 1900

[NickMeade]

Dear kind researchers,

My father did not belay any information as to his past, he died when I was a small child and so did my mother.   All I can go on is this information:

My father was born Redvers James Richards 28 Aug 1927 in Cornwall.  I know he had brothers (*).  All in the Redruth area.

I think the maiden name of my GGMother was Dunstan.

The only other information I have is a small photograph that reads Granpa Edward Richards Deli approx 1919 - so I am assuming that he enlisted into the Army around that time.

The snippet that I have also which may help is that Albert Ernest Richards born c1900 married a Sara(h) Jayne Oliver in Mar 1921 in Redruth.

Any help of information would be wonderful.

Nicholas


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[Sharon01]

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Sharon

[Mort29]

Here's your Father's Birth Index entry, you are correct about his Mother's Maiden name, altho he is a bit older than you thought.

Births Sep 1926 
 
Richards  Redveres J  Mothers Maiden = Dunstan  Redruth  5c 276



I cant see a Richards to Dunstan marriage in Cornwall back as far as 1912 - altho perhaps she was a widow when marrying, so Dunstan appears as a Maiden name on a Birth entry - is this why you mention the Albert E Richards to a Sarah J Oliver in 1921 ?

The accepted wisdom in this situation is to obtain the Birth Certificate to reveal parents full name and then work back via BMDs and Census.

Added - can you explain the word Deli in this context please ? and is it Edward or Albert E ?

small photograph that reads Granpa Edward Richards Deli approx 1919

[NickMeade]

Deli I assume is Deli India.

Albert Ernest Richards was my Fathers Uncle and Edward Richards is pictured in India in about 1919.   As my father was born in Aug 1926 I assume Edward Richards married a Dunstan?

[Mort29]

ah ok, now youve filled in the blanks a bit (who was an Uncle etc), this is most likely your Grandfather Edward and brother Albert in the 1901 census:-

RG13; Piece: 2244; Folio: 6; Page: 3 Camborne parish within Redruth District
 
John Richards 27 Head of Household born Cornwall, Wrendron: a Tin Miner
Mary Richards 27 Wife born Camborne
Edward J Richards 7 son ditto
Albert E Richards 1 son ditto


I still cant see a marriage on FreeBMD between partners called Richards & Dunstan in the right timeframe.

The earliest birth I see to a Richards / Dunstan combination is 1921, Truro.
 

Have you no idea at all what your grandmothers christian name was ?


This is the only EDWARD J RICHARDS marrying in Redruth District (one other in Camelford, but 1924):-

Marriages Sep 1914 
 
Nancarrow  Lottie to Richards  Redruth  5c 338   
Pascoe  Benjamin G  Stevens  Redruth  5c 338   
Richards  Edward J  to Nancarrow  Redruth  5c 338   
Stevens  Beatrice M  Pascoe  Redruth  5c 338   


I'll see if I can find out if Nancarrow is a Maiden name or if she was a widow remarrying ..

looks like she was a spinster, born 1887, Illogan and still at home in the last census available to search.
 


 

[NickMeade]

I have looked at the photograph albums and found the names Martha and Martha Ann Dunstan.

I am not sure what generations these (2) are.

Sorry to be vague but all family stories died with mother and father so I was not made aware of anything so young.

Regards

Nicholas

[Mort29]

I think you will have to get your Dad's Birth Cert to reveal Ms Dunstans full name 


altho now you have mentioned a Martha ...

1901 RG13; Piece: 2238; Folio: 186; Page: 12 - Stithians, Redruth District; Treweeke

all state PoB as Stithians
 
Thomas Henry Dunstan 40 Head of Household - Mortar Mason
Martha Dunstan 37 Wife
Elizth J Dunstan 13 dau
Martha A Dunstan 6 dau
Thomas J Dunstan 1 son

[CatOne]

Marriage (from ancestry.co.uk) -

Martha A Dunstan (Edward J Richards on same page)
December 1920 Redruth 5c 541

[Mort29]

wonder why that is not on FreeBMD ?


well, thats why - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressM.shtml#1910  no marriages at all in 3 & 4Q 1920 !