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Offline jakky

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Patten Makers
« on: Saturday 11 September 10 14:44 BST (UK) »
 Hi,

 I think that  Pattens are a sort of flat shoe, backless, and with a iron ring on the bottom, presumably to keep out of the mud, or have I thought wrong?

Has anyone any idea for what period  of time they were made or,  when they stopped being made.

Thanks,Jakky.

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 September 10 14:55 BST (UK) »
For illustrations of Pattens see THE HISTORY OF YOUR SHOES

http://tinyurl.com/6m5aq

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 September 10 14:56 BST (UK) »
Patten- a. Any of various kinds of thick-soled footwear; esp. (in pl.) wooden clogs which are slipped on the feet without fastening, or raised platform-type shoes.
 b. A kind of overshoe worn to raise an ordinary shoe above wet or muddy ground, consisting (from the 17th cent.) of a thick wooden sole mounted on an oval iron ring or similar base, and secured to the foot by a leather loop passing around the instep. Usu. in pl. Now hist.

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 September 10 16:24 BST (UK) »
When was this? It's not a spelling mistake for pattern is it? The more obvious trade of patte(r)n maker in the last 200 odd years would be someone who makes a mould for castings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_(casting)

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 September 10 16:40 BST (UK) »
There are twelve different types of Pattern Maker in "A Dictionary of Occupational Terms"

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 September 10 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you all,
this was around 1850ish. in Wigan.It is spelt Patten.  I can now perhaps look up the history of them, just wondered how long they had been in circulation,

Thanks again

Jakky
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Wilcox. Liverpool & Fleetwood.
Lamplough. Hull.
Hallam. Wigan & Bolton
Jordan. Hackney.
Burtonwood. Wigan,Bolton
All Census Look Up Transcriptions Are Crown Copyright.

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 September 10 12:49 BST (UK) »
We have ledgers from the family blacksmithing business from the 1820s.
There are many references to making pattens, including one for 'pair of pattens for Susannah' - his wife  ;D

Pat ...

Coo Stan!  Some posh looking pattens on that link you gave us  8)
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 September 10 15:34 BST (UK) »
Hello jakky,

I have a branch of my family from Carlisle who were described as Clog and Patten Makers. They were mentioned in various Trade Directories from 1829 and also in the census records until 1861.

Perhaps a patten was a cheaper type of clog.

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Re: Patten Makers
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 September 10 16:18 BST (UK) »
I think it was mainly the metal curved pieces under the wooden foot base which distinguished the patten, they could be worn alone, or more often worn under shoes/boots in muddy areas.

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?