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Offline DarrenMW

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'Challer-Luff' or 'Luff' of Haslemere
« on: Wednesday 15 September 10 06:04 BST (UK) »
I have Caroline Challer Luff marrying William Philips in Haslemere on 29.7.1819

Would love to know anything about the 'Luff' side of the family.

Thanks!

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Re: 'Challer-Luff' or 'Luff' of Haslemere
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 September 10 15:49 BST (UK) »
Do you have any later records for Caroline to show her age/birthplace?
And are you 100% sure that Luff is her maiden name and she wasn't married before?

It might be "Challen" rather than "Challer" (r and n are often confused in old handwriting).

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html
Shows a Caroline Challen Helyer christened in 1802 Haslemere, apparently illegitimate, mother Mary Helyer.
Mary may have also had another daughter, Eliza Loyd Helyer, in 1796.

Also interesting: Edward Helyer married Elizabeth Luff in 1780 in Haslemere, but before that,
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ shows an Edward Hillyer of Haslemere, reputed father of a child born to Elizabeth Luff in 1778.

(or this may be a red herring and the reason for the name change is that Mary Helyer later married a Luff, or the entry for Caroline Challen Helyer is in itself a red herring, full details from the 1819 marriage and later records for Caroline Challer Luff/Philips would help say one way or another)
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Re: 'Challer-Luff' or 'Luff' of Haslemere
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 January 11 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Looked in the Haslemere parish transcripts and found the following:

May 3 1753 Mery daughter of William & Sary Luff of Thursley - Baptised
February 7 1771 Edward Upfold, gent & Sarah Luff - Married by License at Haslemere
March 29 1772 William son of Robert Luff & Mary his wife of Lurgashall - Baptised
July 20 1777 Mary Helyer daughter of Elizabeth Luff Baptised
November 2 1780 - Edward Helyer & Elizabeth Luff - Married by License at Haslemere
January 14 1782 Edward son of Edward & Elizabeth Helyer Baptised
May 14 1786 James son of Edward & Elisabeth Helyer Baptised
March 4 1787 Richard son of William & Mary Luff of Thursley - Baptised
October 8 1787 Sarah Luff aged 49 was Buried in Haslemere
April 24 1791 Thomas son of William & Mary Luff of Thursley - Baptised
February 7 1796 Eliza Loyd daughter of Mary Helyer Baptised
August 28 1796 Sarah daughter of William & Sarah Luff - Baptised
March 5 1797 John son of William & Mary Luff of Thursley - Baptised
November 14 1802 Caroline Challen daughter of Mary Helyer Baptised
May 4 1806 Richard Luff & Elizabeth Holt - Married by Banns at Haslemere
August 10 1806 Sarah daughter of Richard & Elizabeth Luff Baptised
September 13 1808 Richard Bridger & Mary Helyer - Married by Banns at Haslemere

Obviously I cannot say if they are all related to each other or your search but it may help to fill some gaps.  There are various spellings of Helyer and Luff.  And some more entries before this timeframe, but this may be enough to be going on with.

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Re: 'Challer-Luff' or 'Luff' of Haslemere
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 January 11 12:35 GMT (UK) »
This may be relevant if Carolines Mother Mary Married Richard Bridger 1808.

1841 Census
Haslemere, Surrey
HO107/1073/10/Haslemere
Mary BRIDGER, 64, Charwoman
Charles Bridger, 20
Mary RIDEOUT, 15
Rebecka Rideout, 10
All born in County
(So Mary is born c 1777)

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Re: 'Challer-Luff' or 'Luff' of Haslemere
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 January 11 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi

If we follow Trish's thinking that makes the 4th entry down in my list a suitable fit with her mother as Elizabeth Luff.

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