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Offline JosiahS

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The surname AGAMBER
« on: Monday 20 September 10 18:47 BST (UK) »
Hello there!

I have just come across the surname Agamber through the marriage of a Temperance Agamber to a James Harrosmith (Arrowsmith) on 27 November 1774 at Shoreditch St Leonard.

The surname seems really rare and I can find very few examples of it anywhere.

Does anyone have any knowledge of it?  Does anyone know where it comes from?

Any assistance is very welcome

All the best

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Bainbridge, Chilton
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley, Crumbie
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
Buckinghamshire: Saunders
N Yorks: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 September 10 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi,

A quick search of all records on FreeBMD shows a variety of registrations from 1845 - 1947; mainly in the London area.



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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 September 10 19:08 BST (UK) »

There's also 2 pages of records on http://www.pilot.familysearch.org ;  earliest is a burial of Rachel in Stepney,1725,  daughter of Abram Agamber.


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 September 10 19:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Nanny

Yes I'd spotted that on the pilot site.

I've been getting a few more hits from the spelling AGOMBAR

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Bainbridge, Chilton
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley, Crumbie
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
Buckinghamshire: Saunders
N Yorks: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 September 10 21:02 BST (UK) »
According to this world surname profile site Agombar is mostly found in GB (but mostly is obviously a relative term!) http://worldnames.publicprofiler.org/Default.aspx whilst Agamber seems to be mostly found in India.  Given that Spain appears on the Agombar list I wonder if the name could be Romany or Sephardi Jewish (tho' this latter group wouldn't account for India).
Ermy

Added:  this previous thread seems to suggest that the name is Huguenot http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433434.0.html
Baldwin / Dixey / Rumble (Berkshire)
Burnsides / Corps / Harker / HINDLE / Longstaff / Martin / Page (Co. Durham)
Chalker / Glyde / Morris / Pitman / Stroud (Dorset)
BARTON / Heasman / Wheatley (East Sussex)
Baby / Silver / Silvester (Hampshire)
Cheeseman / JONES / Wood (Kent)
Chalker (Somerset)
Curtis / Davis / Stevens (Wiltshire)
Arcules / Carter / HINTON (Worcestershire)
~.~. main lines in CAPS .~.~

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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 September 10 22:19 BST (UK) »
After chasing this this evening I think they are French-ish as they are deffo appearing in the Huguenot church records.

I've seen spellings such as Agombard which looks more French too.

I'm doing this tree for a friend, and the amazing thing is that he links in with his best friend's tree via a marriage!!

Spooky!

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Bainbridge, Chilton
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley, Crumbie
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
Buckinghamshire: Saunders
N Yorks: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 September 10 02:39 BST (UK) »
Hello

This is Temperances line;


Temperance Agombar b.1756 Bethnal Green, London
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Jacques/James Agombar b.1731 Stepney, London +Katherine Butcher (Married 1750 Bethnal Green, London)
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Jacques/James Agombar b.1706 Stepney, London +Judith Flavan (Married 1730 Aldersgate, London)
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Pierre Agombar
b.1675 St Quentin, Picardy, France +Marie Wishau (Married 1699 Stepney, London)
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Jacob Agombar
b.1649 St Quentin, Picardy, France +Marie Brancourt Le Grand (Married 1669 St Quentin, Picardy, France)
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Jacques Salomon Agombar
1624 St Quentin, Picardy, France+ Anne Le Grand (Married 1648 St Quentin, Picardy, France)
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Nicolas Agombar 1590 circa. St Quentin, Picardy, France+Jehanne Peltier (Married 1610 St Quentin, Picardy, France)
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Jehan Agombar 1570 circa. St Quentin, Picardy, France + Francoise Maleziux
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Jehan Agombar 1540 circa. St Quentin, Picardy, France +Pasquette Massu

The family were originally from the village of Brancourt, just north of St Quentin. Her great grandfather Pierre came to England aged 10, with his mother and father, as refugees in November 1685. They were related by marriage to my Deverdun family also refugees from St Quentin at same time. They also, much later, married into my Bellengers in Bethnal Green. Hagombart or Agombart appears to have been the original spelling in France.  Her two earliest ancestors it is not possible to know exactly when they married, as Protestant marriages had no legal status in France until 1598, so no records of these survive.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 September 10 02:49 BST (UK) »
As for it's origin, this is all I could find translated from a French website:

Hagombart:
Patronymic especially carried in Pas-de-Calais. It is probably from a person's name of germanic origin, Hildebod (hild = fights bod = messenger) according to M.T. Morlet, Agilbald (agil = blade of the sword bald = audacious) according to the Belgian author J. Lindemans. The name is found in Belgium under forms Ellebode, Elleboode, Elleboudt. Probable variants: Hellebois, Hellebosch, also Hellebaud.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: The surname AGAMBER
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 September 10 09:36 BST (UK) »
Richarde that is amazing information - many thanks indeed - the more I researched yesterday the more convinced I became that the family were Huguenot refugees.

I'd be grateful if you could give me some sources for the information that you have shared with me so that I can mark the sources on the gedcom file.

By the way te link between the families of the two friends is the marriage of Samuel Agombar b 1757 to Sarah Manchee born 1759 which took place in 1780.

All the best

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Bainbridge, Chilton
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley, Crumbie
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
Buckinghamshire: Saunders
N Yorks: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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