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census look-up please! - Wardle
« on: Thursday 23 September 10 20:49 BST (UK) »
Can any kind soul out there help me??

I've been trying to find the ancestors of my husband for ages now, and I'm stuck!  :(
The surname is Wardle, but sometimes given/transcribed as Wardall/Wardell.
This makes it very hard to look-up!

The name I'm searching for is James Wardle, c1847 (supposedly born in Shropshire). I've found him on 1881 onwards, but would like to find him on earlier census reports as I need to know his parents and siblings.
This is what I have so far:

1881 - 41 Forge Row, Dawley, Shropshire
         James Wardall, 34, coal miner, b Dawley, Shropshire
wife  Eliza, 36, b Dawley - children Sarah, Mary A, Philip, John, James W - all born Dawley.

1891 - Chester Road, Ogley Hay, Staffordshire
         James Wardall, 44, coal miner, b Dawley, Shropshire
wife  Eliza, 47 - children Mary, Philip, John, William, Lydia E, Wesley (my husband's g-grandfather) - Wesley was the only one born in Shifnal - others stated as Dawley.

1901 - Ogley Square, Ogley Hay, Brownhills, Staffordshire
          James Wardle, 54, coal hewer, b Holpark, Shropshire
wife   Eliza, 56 - children Edward (31, b Darlaston, Staffs), William, Lillie, Wesley - all born Holpark.

I've been unable to pinpoint a definite birth record for James - possibly J/F/M qtr 1847, Madeley, where the surname is recorded as Wardle.
His marriage record to Eliza Withington is J/A/S qtr 1872 Wellington Sh. states surname as Wardall.
I have no idea where the son Edward comes from on 1901 as he doesn't show up on any other census!  ???
Also, the change of 'place of birth' only adds to the confusion!

Can anyone please help me pinpoint James' whereabouts before 1881???

Thanks in advance for ANY help you can give!
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 September 10 20:53 BST (UK) »
1861 RG9/1856 Folio 18 Page 29 with parents Philip and Eliza Wardall plus siblings. Do you need transcription?

Regards
Cat  :)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 September 10 12:51 BST (UK) »
Yes please Cat - that would be fantastic!!  :-*
I haven't got access to the census's, only the free ones, so thanks!  :)
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 September 10 13:30 BST (UK) »
1861 -
Dawley, Shropshire
Philip Wardall 34 Miner Lightmore?
Eliza 34 Dawley
James 14 Miner Dawley
Emmala? 12 Dawley
Eliza 8 Dawley
John 6 Dawley
Thomas 3 Dawley
William 2 Dawley
Philip 1mo Dawley

Got to go out now, but will check out other censuses for you when I get back, if no one else has already found them for you.

Regards
Cat  :)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov


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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 September 10 13:40 BST (UK) »
Cat you're a star!!!
No-one else has got back to me at all yet, so I'd appreciate you looking at the others for me - I can't wait to hear from you!!
Thanks again!
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 September 10 16:25 BST (UK) »
1851 HO107/1988 Folio 273 Page 34
54 Forge Row, Dawley Shropshire

Philip Wardle 23 Coal Miner Salop Madeley
Elizth 23 Salop Adamsford
James 4 Salop Adamsford
Emiley 2 Dawley
Mary Ann 10m Dawley

Still looking for 1871  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 September 10 16:36 BST (UK) »
Theres a possible marriage on FreeBMD for Philip in 1847 Wellington Sal (one of the brides is Eliza Ruskoe)

1871 RG10/2751 Folio 18 Page 29 (transcribed as Woodall)
Forge Row, Dawley

Philip Wordall 45 Unemployed All born Dawley
Eliza 45
John 16 Miners Horse Driver
Thomas 13    "           "
William 12 Scholar
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 September 10 16:40 BST (UK) »
1891 RG12/3146 Folio 52 Page 14
12 Back Kirkhams? Pilkington, Lancashire

Philip Wardell m 64 Coal Miner, not able to work Shropshire Dawley Parish

Will look for wife as it says m(arried) not widowed  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: census look-up please! - Wardle
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 September 10 18:18 BST (UK) »
Unless there are 2 Philip Wardells born c1826 Dawley, he seems to have remarried by 1901 -

97 Shaftesbury Street, Newport, Monmouthshire
Philip Wardall 75 Tin Works Labourer Shropshire Dawley
Susanah 83 Dorset Shaftesbury

RG13/4960 Folio 128 Page 10

Marriage?
Philip Wardell March 1896 Newport M 11a 310
Bride? Susannah Churchill
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov