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Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« on: Sunday 26 September 10 22:57 BST (UK) »
My first post - I am seeking information about Great-Grandfather Francis Ryan "from Wexford".

He was born 1831-1833, going by ages in the 1861 and 1871 UK Censuses.

His parents were Thomas Ryan and Ann Neale/O'Neill - uncertain of her spellings.

He fetched up in the Isles of Scilly and then West Cornwall. Died July 1905 here in Plymouth, "age 73".

His children's names may have been family names: Annie, Johanna, Patrick, Thomas, Mary Quigley, Catherine Jane.

Obviously, any information would be gratefully received - Keith Patrick



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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 September 10 08:08 BST (UK) »
Since the date of Francis birth is before civil registration you will need a few more details to start a search for his details - his family religion and where in Wexford they lived, i.e. parish, townland or town. Wexford can refer to the county or town.

see: Introduction to Irish Records


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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 September 10 10:21 BST (UK) »
Shane - Thanks for your reply. I know "Wexford" covers a lot of ground, that is why it is in quotation marks, we just don't know where in Wexford - I used to wonder if he just sailed "from Wexford". We know he was staunch RC because there were problems with his son, Patrick, my grandfather, following him around the streets of Penzance in his old age when he was saying the Rosary. Patrick followed, "mimicking", according to family lore.

I have just been kindly given some "steers" on the Cork board where Thoms Ryans and O'Neills were in the same Wexford townland/parish, so that's already better than I got to when I gave up in 1981! In those days I was writing to parish priests and local newspapers - now we have the web!

Thanks again - Keith
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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 September 10 10:29 BST (UK) »
The main difficultly in not knowing a definite location is that not many rural RC parishes have records for the 1830s or earlier...


Shane

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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 September 10 10:49 BST (UK) »
I thought that might be the case - so our royal lineage may not be proved after all! Nevertheless, we will keep trying, you never know .....

PS - Nice web site  :)
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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 September 10 11:00 BST (UK) »
I'd say your best bet is to keep an eye out for Wexford RC parish records online, hopefully they will be added to either the IFHF or RootsIreland website at some stage. With the confirmed parents names you have it should be possible to confirm, or rule out, any matches on a full county search.


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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 September 10 11:34 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your good advice - I just hope this task is one that I don't have to leave to my own descendants!
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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 May 11 08:52 BST (UK) »
Hi there, was just 'browsing' and came across your post, my gt grandfather was a Thomas Ryan m Elizabeth ? and their firstborn son was my grandfather, James (1902). They were from Balleycarney, County Wexford (Enniscorthy). I don't really think there is a connection, except they had a daughter called Frances. I am struggling to get past Thomas and have one or two maybe's for my gt gt grandfather Ryan. Good luck with your search
Mandy
Ryan              Wexford  
Lyons            Wexford
O'Neill            Wexford
Storey            Tacken, Waterford
Tomkins          Wexford
Stubbs            Wexford

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Re: Francis Ryan b. 1831/1833 "in Wexford"
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 May 11 09:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info. You never know, maybe Elizabeth ? was a first or second wife and here we are, cousins! I'm just waiting to find more records online as mentioned in a a post above. Or, a lucky "strike" via a reply like yours!

Keith
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