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Offline kiwi65

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ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« on: Saturday 02 October 10 20:59 BST (UK) »
hello,I hope im putting this in the correct place,its my first posting.
my interest is the irish war of independance/civil war.i have read through all the postings on the civil war threads in the last week and found them very imformative.
I have a original photo of 23 men interned in ballykinlar camp probley taken in early 1921 and quite similer to the one to be found on the back of the book My dear Eva by Peader Kearney and likley to be taken on a camera apparently smuggled into ballykinlar camp.
In the photo is a gentleman called John Kelly who im trying to research.he was from no 9 lock,Clondalkin,Dublin.I also have a DORA document for him signed 16 dec 1920 along with a rather strange metal disc which i can only describe as a ID disc or medallion.this has a lot of personal info on it,name,religion,blood group ect.this i have been told was something some volunteers did as a personal thing,ie made themselves.He may have been a minor figue and John Kelly is a common name in dublin let alone Ireland.any where i try to reasearch him comes up blank.he looks quite young in the photo and i have 2 or entys in the 1911 census and hes likley to be one of them.
Back to the photo.it has all 23 men named on the back 10 of whom are from dublin.These may be of interest to someone researching the dublin brigades/volunteers.the names are M Whelan,D Reilly,W Norris,W Reilly,J Kelly,G Byrne,J lynch,D Buthler(not to clear)G Treacy,T O Keefe.as mentioned theres another 13 mens names from various parts of ireland.
There is also 2 named as english a M Matthews and a S Sinnott.I would have thought they had a hard from from the authoritys.Does anyone know any more re english volunteers in the irish war of independance or these 2 in general.
I have lost contact with the woman who gave me these items so im up against a wall trying to find out more.would be happy to email pics to anyone whos tying to id people or get names ect for volunteers.
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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 October 10 08:49 BST (UK) »
can you email me the picture and names I am hoping to speak to a local expert in Belfast in the next few weeks for someone else  :)
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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 October 10 09:02 BST (UK) »
Hi,
not sure how to email you direct with the photo and didnt want to put it directly onto the website at this point.if you can somehow get your email address to me will send you a copy.Dan

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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 October 10 09:03 BST (UK) »
Kiwi65 only has 2 posts and may need 1 more to use PM (personal message) system.

Dan- you've posted just as I was typing my message. You've now 3 posts and should be able to click on little green scroll under doyler94's user name to write and send a PM.
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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 October 10 11:06 BST (UK) »
thanks aghadowey I sent a private message with my email
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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 October 10 15:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Dan
I would be grateful if you could PM me a copy of the pic.
My Grandfather was in Ballykinlar at that time.

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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 January 13 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi I have a copy of the picture of the men in Ballykinlar its badly torn and from an old newspaper - my grandad is the G Byrne in the second row His name was Gerald known as Garry Byrne

I'd love a good copy of the photo as i am working on my family tree at the moment

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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 January 13 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat  :) New members usually need 3 posts to use PM (personal Message) system in order to exchange emailaddresses and other personal information which you aren't allowed to post on the boards.

P.S.- the original poster hasn't been online since January 2011.
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Re: ballykinlar camp,war of independance
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 February 13 16:30 GMT (UK) »
P.S.- the original poster hasn't been online since January 2011.

That's a shame.

Did anyone manage to get a copy of this photo ?
My grandfather was imprisoned at Ballykinlar during the period mentioned & I would love to take a look at it.
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