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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #18 on: Friday 08 October 10 12:55 BST (UK) »

Looking at the information about Elizabeth Loveridge, I dont think she was married to either of the brothers who were Stephen Stone and Elias Stone. 

Oooh.  How naughty.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: LOVERIDGE, Elizabeth
Address: Poplar Lane Eastwood

STONE, Stephen Head Unmarried M 42 1869 General Labourer And Hawker Romford Essex VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Elizabeth Mother Unmarried F 33 1878 Flower Seller Isle of Ely Essex VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Loie Daughter F 11 1900 Scholar Eastwood Essex VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Elijah Son M 10 1901 Scholar Eastwood Essex VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Queene Daughter F 8 1903 Scholar Eastwood Essex VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Elias Son M 5 1906 Pitsea Essex VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Charlie Son M 2 1909 Eastwood Essex


There is another family who I haven't tied in yet with my main Loveridge file...

1891 Lavenham, Suffolk.

John Loveridge                   Head  30          abt 1861  Cambridge     Cambridgeshire 
Saney Loveridge                 Wife  30           abt 1861  Cambridge    Cambridgeshire
Pricilla Loveridge                 Daughter  13   abt 1878 Caiston    Northamptonshire
Elizabeth    Loveridge            Daughter 11    abt 1880 Cambridge    Cambridgeshire
Queens Nation Loveridge   Daughter 9       abt 1882 Cambridge    Cambridgeshire
Moses Loveridge                 Son 7                abt 1884    Lavenham Suffolk
Saney Loveridge                 Daughter 5       abt 1886 Lavenham    Suffolk
Lech Loveridge                   Son    2          abt 1889    Lavenham    Suffolk
Mordager Loveridge            Son    Under 1/12  abt 1891 Lavenham Suffolk

The presence of these two names implies there is a family connection somehow.

Paternal family names: Lee & Smith
Maternal family names: Hollis, Lambert, Donaghue & Osborne.

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 October 10 18:58 BST (UK) »


Hi Scally,

A few more for you, thats if you havent got them already.

1911 census - household transcription
Address: In a Portable Tent in Love's Lane Off Reach Road Burwell Cambridgeshire

LOVERIDGE, Faires Head Married M 56 1855 Cambridge Witcham VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Sarah Wife Married F 51 1860 Cambridge Cottenham VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Cornelius Son Single M 19 1892 Cambridge Littleport VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Faires Son Single M 16 1895 Cambridge Doddington VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Sevinah Daughter F 9 1902 Cambridge Doddington VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Elijah Son M 7 1904 Cambridge Doddington


1911 census - household transcription
Address: Caravan C/o Harvey Station En D Lode Cambridgeshire

LOVERIDGE, Stephen Head Married
14 years M 50 1861 Labourer Farm Scotland Glascoed VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Susan Wife Married F 33 1878 Wolverhampton Staffford VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Norah Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer On Farm Yarmouth Norfolk VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Lovenia Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Wisbech Cambs VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Beliah Daughter Single F 11 1900 School March Cambs VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Eli Son Single M 7 1904 March Cambs VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Unity Daughter F 6 1905 March Cambs VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Stephen Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Lode Cambs

Will see what I can find out about John and Saney.
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 10 October 10 00:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Scally,

A few more for you, thats if you havent got them already.

1911 census - household transcription
Address: In a Portable Tent in Love's Lane Off Reach Road Burwell Cambridgeshire

LOVERIDGE, Faires Head Married M 56 1855 Cambridge Witcham VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Sarah Wife Married F 51 1860 Cambridge Cottenham VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Cornelius Son Single M 19 1892 Cambridge Littleport VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Faires Son Single M 16 1895 Cambridge Doddington VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Sevinah Daughter F 9 1902 Cambridge Doddington VIEW
LOVERIDGE, Elijah Son M 7 1904 Cambridge Doddington


Will see what I can find out about John and Saney.

My instinct tells me that this is in fact Despair/Spears and Crisanda.  Faires isn't anyway similar to a word let alone a name and I know that often a F and a S can be mistaken for each other.  I don't have access to the 1911 census records but I would be willing to bet this could be them.  Despair had a son called Cornelius in 1892/3 so that fits as well.

Additionally, I think that the John and Saney I listed above are the same couple who are adapting their names as time passes.

They have a daughter born in 1886 named the same as the mother - so does the 1901 census.
They have an Elizabeth of the same age.
They have a Moses of the same age.
They have a Lech born in 1889 - the 1901 has a Levi born 1887.
They have a Mordager born in 1891 - the 1901 has an Arthur born 1891.

There is the difference in birth places given to take into account though....

Paternal family names: Lee & Smith
Maternal family names: Hollis, Lambert, Donaghue & Osborne.


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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 10 October 10 10:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Nettie,

 I see you're hard at it again :D, i've been keeping a close eye on this one as all the people mentioned so far are related to my Smith/Parker/Loveridge family.

 I've been trying to contact my cousin in Norfolk to confirm where Steven Loveridge fits in as his grt grandfather and grt grt grandfather were both Steven Loveridge's, by the way, Steven or Stephen was also known as 'Stefan'. Also Nettie, one of those last names you posted 'Faires' has similarities to the name 'Farey' which was normally used by the Perkins gypsies, and the Heron's and Lovell's used 'Fero' or 'Feriel'
     

Nearly all of these people so far mentioned turn up somewhere around Beds/Bucks/Herts or Cambs, and sometimes Eastwood in Essex where a lot of my family also come from, i've got about 60 different 1911 census's covering all these area's that my cousin emailed me, so i'll look through them later on to see what i can find.

 
china
Family Romany Names Of Special Interest;
Bedfordshire LOVERIDGES & PARKERS
Cambridgeshire SMITHS
Hampshire AYRES & JEFFS

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire,
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire,
HUCKLESBY'S from Toddington Bedfordshire

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #22 on: Monday 11 October 10 15:48 BST (UK) »


Hi China,

You know me hun  ;) once I start looking, I keep looking to see what I can find.

I know one of the Stephen Loveridges had a daughter born in Bourn Cambridgeshire, lovely old village I remember going to the fair that used to be in the village every year just across the road from where my nan lived.


Nettie
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 02:49 BST (UK) »

 Hi Nettie

 I love it around the Cambridge area, it has a certain laid back sort of feeling which i like.

 I can also remember the travelling fair stopping in Toddington once a year, it was great, the owners were the Grey family and the Dean family, i can remember Mr Deans youngest son was named 'James' and he used to drive around the village in his red mustang........aahhhhh........memories, seems like a long time ago now ::) ;)

Anyway!!
 If you don't mind Nettie send me any info on the daughter of Stephen who was born in Bourn and i'll pass it onto my cuz in Norfolk.

China
Family Romany Names Of Special Interest;
Bedfordshire LOVERIDGES & PARKERS
Cambridgeshire SMITHS
Hampshire AYRES & JEFFS

Also researching;
MEADS from Luton, Bedfordshire,
RADWELLS from Buckinghamshire,
HUCKLESBY'S from Toddington Bedfordshire

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 10:42 BST (UK) »


Hi China,
I have sent the info to you about Stephens daughter who was born in Bourn.

I think the fair that stopped in Bourn was owned by Henry Manning and one of his brothers Jack, I can remember my Uncle Mick used to work for them when they were in the area.

Like you said memories feels like a life time ago :D

Nettie
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Despair is my gg grandfather, Elizabeth his daughter my great grandmother.  I have a copy of her daughters birth cert and she states that her name is Elizabeth Loveridge nee Smith, which connects the two names.

She did not marry either of the Stone brothers and all her children had her surname.

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London: Smith, Huntingford, Goldstone, Dupuy, Lanigan, Barrett, Dyke, Chaplin, Dupuis, Le Brument, Velu, Huet, Hatenville, Lovell, Giles

Essex: Romany connections - Loveridge,  Livermore, Chillystone, Stone, Lamb

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Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 15:03 GMT (UK) »
my mums mum was also a loveridge .she was queenie loveridge who married penda buckley . on my dads side my gran was mary stone who where also related to the loveridges
on the loveridge side these are a few of em i can remember
queenie [gran
louie   sister of above
stephen brother
nobby brother
charlie brother
not sure if there are any more

stone side
mary [gran
ike
and still trying to find the rest
sylvie