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What were they doing-Incoming Passenger Lists
« on: Saturday 09 October 10 19:37 BST (UK) »
I have an ancestor Malcolm Bell Hay b1877Christchurch N.Z. Profession Surgeon and Medical Practioner,  on his death notice in the BMJ it saya he was in the Medical Service West Africa.  I searched the military records to no avail, then started to search passenger list and he is on several incoming passenger lists from the Gold Coast to Liverpool, 1917 1919, 1920,1922,1924,1925,1927 with his wife and I think his daughter.
Anybody know where I could get any info regarding what he was doing out there and why so much tooing a frowing.

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 October 10 20:07 BST (UK) »
hi chris i,ve just had a look at the migration records in 1919 a dr mb hay was enroute to the gold coast and it for occupation he,s down as col gov official which presumably is colonial government the good old days of the british raj , depending on your point of view  ;D does this tie in with a description for him coming to england ?, i,m wondering if there were some sort of disease epidemic , or could he have been carrying something back to britain he couldn,t entrust to any one else  ( very james bond or am i in the realms of fantasy )   ;D
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 October 10 20:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor, I like your fantasy, but I am as intrigued as you are, I suppose your theory could be right but how can I get anymore info.
On  all the incoming passenger lists he is down as Surgeon, Medical etc.  Also each journey they travelled 1st class.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 October 10 21:25 BST (UK) »
I would suspect he was coming home on leave!!  :P
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 October 10 21:35 BST (UK) »
hi chris looking at the migrant records the following reads
departure 18 dec 1912 m b hay surgeon
      ""         15 mar 1916  medical officer including mrs m b hay & miss m o hay
       ""        15 june 1921  medical officer
     ""         26 feb   1923  medical     including mrs m b hay
   ""          10 jul 1924      medical     including mrs m b hay & miss m o hay
    ""          6 feb 1926     medical
i can,t find there arrival from n z unless they went straight to the gold coast and the first arrival from there is his first to eng but the dates don,t tie up with yours !!!!! any thoughts
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 October 10 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor,this is what I've got 1901 census he was listed at Devon Infirmary as House Surgeon. 
He Married Minnie  Sym in Christchurch N.Z. 1902. 
1911 Census Minnie and daughter living Gillingham Kent, Minnie Born Middlesex Twickenham and daughter born Devonshire 1904.
1911 census is a Student at Custom House Essex Occ Medical Practitioner.
Incoming Pass.Lists Gold Coast to Liverpool.
10/6/1917
9/6/1919
3012/1920
15/3/1924
14/9/1925
13/3/1927
I'm a bit confused really are your departure dates from England to gold Coast?

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 October 10 22:31 BST (UK) »
chris
in answer to your confusion yes my dates are from eng to gold coast  ;)
my turn now so m b is born in nz comes to eng probably late 1800,s then goes home gets hitched and then comes back to set up house , re 1911 cen are you saying minnie and dau living alone in kent & mb is listed at a custom house essex ? and if in 1901 he,s listed as a house surgeon  why in 1911 is he listed as a student  am i right so far cos i have more questions to ask but it,s getting complicated as it is  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 October 10 22:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor, yes minnie and daughter living alone 1911 census, m b living at Custom house listed student but occ Medical Practitioner so I think at that time he must have been furthering his medical qualifications.  Making any sense???
Just noticed 1911 cen for MB states Widower Married but could just be enum. error

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 October 10 23:11 BST (UK) »
chris this creating more questions than answers now , ok yes i,m with you re his furthering his career ,as house surgeon could be similar to a houseman now ,so settle for that at the moment  , and pos that on cen night he had been called out to someone ill at a custom house so would be counted in at that address not his own , where was the customs house in essex only there is still the prob why send a dr from kent area to essex , it feels like they must both be close to the thames .

tell me if i,m getting to far away from your original post only i,m known for delving into things and trying to get all the meat off a bone , also not knowing where you are , as i,m in eng it,s getting near time to lay my weary head down , will pick this up in the morning , only it,s a great thread and very intriguing , i,ll wait for your reply then finish for tonight
trevor
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