Jersey BIRTH/BAPTISM look-up COUDRAY

[Bill Ellson]

John Coudray born c1856, married Emily Smith Islington, Middlesex Sep quarter 1886.
1891 & 1911 census give his place of birth as Jersey, but I am unable to find him in either England or Jersey census prior to marriage. When he died on 9 Aug 1917 both death registration and probate was in the name John Treffry Toulman Coudray, whereas on both the census entries and the marriage index he is plain John Coudray.

[Hill]

Hi Bill

I can see an entry in the index for St Brelades Parish births for a John Treffry Toulmin Coudray 10th Sep 1850 to 25th Nov 1866 on page 51.

There seems to be a small enclave of Coudray's running the St Aubin's Hotel in St Brelades in the 1851 census, including a John Coudray - a possible father(?) The entry in Ancestry is filed under Coudsay!

Stewart

[Bill Ellson]

Stewart,

Sorry for the delay, I missed your reply.

The index entry is definately him, thanks.

I saw the Coudray family at the St Aubin Hotel but JTTC does not appear on a census although there is a different John on a later census.

A google search on "Treffry Toulmin" turns up an Amy Jane Treffery Toulmin 1814-95, but it is hard to work out any connection. See: http://www.toulmin.family.btinternet.co.uk/DescendentsAbrahamChard.htm

Bill

[Hill]

Hi Bill

I've had a look at the birth certificate.

JTTC was born at 17 3/4 hour (!!) on 25th Dec 1853 at Noirmont, St Brelade. His father was John Thomas Coudray and his mother Hannah Treffry. I've never seen a time written like that before.

Stewart

[Bill Ellson]

Many thanks for that, Stewart.

Only expect a time, but not in such a form, if the child is a twin. Could you see whether that was the case?

Bill

[Hill]

Hi Bill

First of all there are no twins!

Looking at the time again, I can see that it's not 17 but 7. The script is faint and it looked like two characters rather than one. The Registrar was obviously a stickler for detail as all births around that time include the date and time of birth.

Stewart