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Offline Paul Johnson of Hartlepool UK

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Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« on: Sunday 17 October 10 23:17 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Can you help me find out information about a group of travellers that may have settled in Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Durham in 1939.

My grandfather, John William Tiplady, born 1926 in Pontefract Yorkshire and died 2010 in Hartlepool Cleveland, was one of them, and he was aged 13 at the time.

He settled there with his family, including:-
His father - John William Tiplady, born 1890 in Luton Bedfordshire, and died 1943 in West Hartlepool Durham.
His mother - Margaret Daley, born 1903 in Maltby, Yorkshire, England, and died 1995 Hartlepool Cleveland.

and his brothers:-
Moderator Comment:  Names removed as these people may still be living.
I would like to know more about that group of travellers so that I can find out more about my great grandfather JW Tiplady born 1890. I would like to know why he joined that community because his family were not travellers.

Is it because Margaret Daley was a traveller, and he fell in love with her joined the community to be with her? (Ahh, very romantic, lol)

It will also help me to understand how they lived.

I am not sure but, they may have been fairground travellers.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Surnames:- Johnson, Dawkins, Crutchley, Tiplady, Cranney, Laybourn, Rough.

Areas:- Hartlepool, Cleveland, Co. Durham, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Yorkshire, Bedfordshire

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 12:47 BST (UK) »
i have dalys in my tree but they came from cork ireland in 1895,quite a large family and thery did spread out although mine branch is in the west country.
birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 13:21 BST (UK) »
Hi cathayb,

Margarets parents Thomas Daley and Margaret Burke who where born in Ireland circa 1870's. They had many children who where born in the Sheffield, South Yorkshire area.
Surnames:- Johnson, Dawkins, Crutchley, Tiplady, Cranney, Laybourn, Rough.

Areas:- Hartlepool, Cleveland, Co. Durham, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Yorkshire, Bedfordshire


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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 14:32 BST (UK) »
 Daly, robert
b. 1856
ireland
m. Daly, sarah
ireland
 
supposed to be a traveller/tinker. on 1901 cencus down as retired army pensioner of ireland

 
 
 

           
           
 
Daly, eleanor m
b.  1877
ireland
 Daly, frederick
b.  1882
ireland
 Daly, john
b.  1883
ireland
 
 
 
Daly, kathleen
b.  1888
ireland
d.  saltford bristol
m. LIVING
 Daly, robert
b.  1896
ireland
 Daly, arthur
b.  1897
devises wiltshire
 
 
 
Daly, dorathy
b.  1899
devises wiltshire
 
 
this is my lot.they married into cooks from wiltshire
birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 16:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry!

Mine does not go back that far. What about his off-spring, or any other family members?
Surnames:- Johnson, Dawkins, Crutchley, Tiplady, Cranney, Laybourn, Rough.

Areas:- Hartlepool, Cleveland, Co. Durham, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Yorkshire, Bedfordshire

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 August 11 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have only just joined this forum, and recently started researching my husband's interesting family tree: we knew that his maternal family were travelling actors / comedians who originated from Ireland. Yesterday I received a copy of gt gt grandfather's will written in 1854 by which time they owned properties in Luton even though they were still travellers. He was Fredeick O'Leary (stage name Frederick Fredericks) born c1816 in Banham Norfolk, who appears to have had several "wives" whose surnames I have not yet found.....there is a Caroline Gening (?), Caroline Augusta (there is a match for her that I need to work on), a Louisa Elizabeth and an Ann. There is also a possibility of a connection with the Rayner circus family since a son who appears to have died in infancy was given the middle name "Rayner".....gt grandfather had the middle name "Lausanne".....have no idea why.

What might be of interest to you is that in his will he mentions a John Tiplady as the occupier of one of his properties in Luton (in 1854)....this could have been a field, house, business premises, etc: we simply don't know at this early stage in our research. On Fred's death the properties were jointly owned by is sons, but it appears that gt grandfather might have owned them outright later...not certain about this. (My next step, once we have deciphered the hand writing, is to search the censuses for the people mentioned in his will to find possible address of the properties he owned.)

Have you come across other surnames of travellers of Irish decent in the Luton area? Have you come across the Fredericks / O'Leary family? Maybe, since we are both researching Irish travellers who settled in Luton there might be a connection. Could not believe it when I read the name Tiplady in your post after reading the will for the first time last evening!

Good luck!

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 April 12 19:02 BST (UK) »
Hi,

My surname is Tiplady and I'm from Hartlepool. I think your grandfather may be a great uncle of mine. Wanted to send you a personal message but can't work out how to, so please get in touch if you want to chat.  :)

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 May 12 02:32 BST (UK) »
John William Tiplady snr. is my 3rd cousin 4 times removed - a bit tenuous then  :). Was very interested to learn that a branch of my family were travellers.
Most of my family tree covers the Highlands of Scotland, London, Hertfordshire and the Midlands of England. I work as a researcher in a military archive.

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Re: Seaton Carew 1939 Tiplady/Daley
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 August 16 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
my great grandparents are Margaret Daley and John Tiplady. I used to live in hartlepool but now live in melbourne. can't work how to private message but would love to chat about info on them.