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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 16:27 BST (UK) »
 :-[

Sorry False alarm ... his name is Henry Hollick, with a Mary Ann Masters on the same page.

There is this marriage on IGI

HENRY HOLYOAK = MARY FRY
02 JUL 1849, Grendon, Warwick

clutching at straws ...

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 16:31 BST (UK) »

HENRY HOLYOAK = MARY FRY
02 JUL 1849, Grendon, Warwick

I think I've looked at that one before, and found them in later censuses.
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 17:44 BST (UK) »
That doesn't explain why young Henry gave his fsther's name as John on his marriage.

If I were going to Birmingham I would look in the library to see what the occupation of Henry snr. was on the baptism and what the occupations were of Henry jnr. and John on the marriage cert.


Is that Hollioak or Partridge though?

There is this one, but I don't think they're connected with mine as far as I know.

Henry Hollioake
Baptism/Christening Date 25 Dec 1834
Baptism/Christening Place St Martin, Birmingham
Birth Date 6 Dec 1834
Father's Name John Hollioake
Mother's Name Ann

I did see a marriage of Henry to a Mary Ann Masters .... I wonder if Mary Ann had maried prior?

Oooh - where is that?



Sloe the marriage I found was on the FamilySearch Pilot records.

It was Henry Hollyoak age 21 married Eliza Jane Deeming age 20 at St George Birmingham on 17/11/1867.
His father John Hollyoak hers Charles Deeming.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 18:24 BST (UK) »
i thought of something earlier when i was driving home form work but i cant remember now  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 18:31 BST (UK) »
Think, Toni, Think!!!!

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 18:54 BST (UK) »
In 1841  Henry Holioake is with his parents and siblings in Duddeston and Nechells, Aston.

In the same Parish in 1841 is a Family headed by a Benjamin HENS (brass founder). The name looks like Heuis/Hemis to me.

They do not have a daughter Mary ... but since they are in the same Parish I thought I would post.

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 19:08 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this Mary Ann:

HO107/1153 /1 Fol 30 pg 15

1841
Mary Ann Hirons 10, with mother, Sarah, 41.
Holy Trinity, Coventry.

The surname is a bit of a mess ....

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 19:19 BST (UK) »
I don't think it's the Hirons girl as FS beta turns up a baptism for her.

But here is a map I made for myself in relation to Mary Ann's death, highlighting
Aston Road - Hollioak home in 1861 *
Francis St - where she died
Ormond St - home of informant

Dartmouth St where Henry & parents lived in 1841 is in the centre of the map
Ashted Row leads off it, parallel to & below Francis St.  This is where Benjamin Hens family is in 1841.

*actually that's Aston Street - must check if it's the same
Near enough, Aston Road is the continuation of Aston St beyond Gosta Green.
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 20:58 BST (UK) »
I was looking at the other addresses.

For the 7 Stonehouse Place, Ormond St, in 1861 there is no Ann Watts living there :(  (Or in any of the other houses in that street, there are 9)

The houses aren't numbered either, but interestingly (or maybe not :-\) in the 7th house, there is this family:

Mary Holder Head Widow 49 b. Shropshire
Caroline Holder Daughter 17
William Holder Son 15
Henry Holder Son 15
Mary Shepherd Lodger Married 44

RG9; Piece: 2159; Folio: 111; Page: 12

Added: The Holder family aren't living at this address in 1851, can't find her yet in 1871, but they are living in the same area - St Stephens...but Mary Holder is nee Stevens....so probably no help at all :(


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