Lily Hamlet and Samuel Bagley c.1890

[ClareCH]

Am posting for parts of my tree that I am stuck on. Here is the first.

I am trying to find the marriage of this couple or anyone who has them in their tree. They had four children: Samuel Bagley, Molly Bagley, Ivy Bagley b. 1922 and Violet who died young. All the children were born in Kings Norton Staffordshire. On Ivy's birth certificate and marriage cert. Samuel Bagley is noted as a lcoal merchant. I suspect Hamlet may be a altered spelling of Hamblet which is common in the area.  Three of the children were in West Bromwich Orphanage and were later splt up. Can I get records from orphanages?

[Mort29]

I wonder if Lily had been previously married - and Hamlet shows up as her actual maiden name on Ivy's Birth Index entry ?

Marriages Dec 1913   
 
Bagley  Samuel  to Cook  Kings N.  6d 255   
Betts  Marion B  Partridge  Kings N.  6d 255   
Cook  Lily  to Bagley  Kings N.  6d 255   
Partridge  Lewis  Betts  Kings N.  6d 255   


I havent checked birth years for the older kids - are they after 1913?




Ah, I think that may indeed be a different couple - there is an Annie born 1914 MMN = Cook.

You are prob' correct that your Lily's name was HAMBLET

Births Mar 1916 
 
Bagley  Samuel  Hamblet  Kings N.  6d 178

[ClareCH]

  Thank you for that super quick reply! I think that confirms the Hamblet theory. The other children were Molly 1919 and Violet 1921. No marriage though! I thought it would be about 1915 or so given the birthdate of Samuel but no luck. Still, thanks again, that's great.
clare

[Mort29]

This is the only close Birth Index I could see for Lily ...

Births Jun 1892
 
Hamblet  Lily     W. Bromwich  6b 877


Only chance to see her will be 1901 and 1911 (latter we cant search due to T's & C's)

1901 - RG13; Piece: 2722; Folio: 92; Page: 45 West Brom; 15, Brickhouse Lane
 
Frances Hamblet 48 WIDOW Head of Household born West Brom, Staffs
Thomas Hamblet 21 son born Tipton, Staffs
William Hamblet 19 son ditto
Eliza Hamblet 13 dau West Brom
Lily Hamblet 9 dau ditto

[ClareCH]

 :)Thanks I'll go look at that. Out of interest when do we get to see the 1911 census. I see its on some pay sites but I can't afford the payments to get to it. If its not arriving though I might have to bite the bullet and save up!

Clare

[Mort29]

Its been out for some time - only available with FindMyPast.

Look in Census Resources on here and you'll find Serach hints & tips.

[sillgen]

Hi
As Mort29 says 1911 census requests are not allowed and you have to pay to look at the image.  Might be worth buying some credits.  Don't waste them on the transcripts though.  The image is much better value.
regards
Andrea

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

The index is free to search and there are lots of suggestions on this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355239.0.html

[hammmy]

All I have, as a new user (first posting today) Is - Father - Kenneth Hamblet. Grandfather - Ernest Hamblet. Great grandfather - Joseph Hamblet jr. Great great grandfather Joseph Hamblet sr. (Piercy brickworks) Any suggestions please to a newcomer ?

[DebbieG]

Hi Hammy - Welcome to Rootschat   

We will try and help you but we need if possible a bit more information.  We could really do with some dates - even if they are only approximate and some places.  Don't put any details of anyone who is living on though.

It will probably be best to start your own thread in the correct county board but first we need to work out where that is

 

DebbieG