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Offline Daisy Loo

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2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« on: Tuesday 26 October 10 21:23 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I have come across a medal card for a Richard J Noonan, and it has 2 regimental numbers listed.  Is there any reason for this?

Thanks in advance.    :)

(I have found his discharge papers on Ancestry, as he was gassed in France)
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Re: 2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 22:18 BST (UK) »
I've not looked at the card but presumably he switched units at some time? A common occurrence especially after a man was wounded while with one unit then - when fit - was sent to another.

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Re: 2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 22:25 BST (UK) »
based on his pension record, looks like he was in a Territorial/Training unit to start off with in 1915, then mobilized in 1917 and allocated a new number based on a renumbering exercise that went on in 1917

http://www.1914-1918.net/renumbering.htm
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Re: 2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 22:48 BST (UK) »
I think there is an error on his MIC.

194797 should be his Royal Field Artillery number.

He later transferred to the Royal Garrison Artillery and numbered 223198.

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Re: 2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 23:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all your answers....would this have all taken place between 1915-1919? (going on his pension record?)
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Re: 2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 10:00 BST (UK) »
I think there is an error on his MIC.

194797 should be his Royal Field Artillery number.

He later transferred to the Royal Garrison Artillery and numbered 223198.

Phil

think you're right there Phil. He was RFA until 21/6/1918 after which he was RGA. As they are effectively separate corps, the transfer would have triggered a number change.

If I read the pension record right, he was with D Battery, 156th Brigade, RFA when he was wounded on the 29th October 1917. A Sgt John Bowie and Gunner William Bolland of D Battery, 156th Brigade RFA were killed 28/10/1917 at Ypres.
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Re: 2 reg numbers on Medal Card??
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 10:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all your answers....would this have all taken place between 1915-1919? (going on his pension record?)

can't read everything clearly but looks like he :

enlisted 19th Dec 1915
first reported for duty 18/1/1916
sent to France 1/9/1917
posted to D Battery, 156th Brigade 5/10/1917
wounded 29/10/1917
sent to 134 Field Ambulance, 12th General Hospital, Rouen and then Belmont Military Hospital, Liverpool 13/11/1917 to 23/5/1918

transfer to RGA 21/6/1918
posted to 18th Anti Aircraft Company 18/10/1918
discharged to Z Class Reserve 4/3/1919
assessed for pension 17/4/1919

a pity these doesn't appear to be a service record.
Niland/Neiland/Neilan/Nyland - Dublin
Doyle - Enniscorthy
McCullen - Coastguards from Drogheda, Co Louth
Shepley - Macclesfield and Wheelock
Clarke - Macclesfield
McDermott - Macclesfield and Dublin
Pender - Dublin
O'Brien - Dublin and Galbally