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LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« on: Thursday 04 November 10 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello, apologies this is long winded

1851 - 1871 Census Merthyr Tydfil  :  Ann LONG born c1833 in Merthyr Tydfil is living with or next door to her sister  Eliza JONES nee LONG  born 1837 Merthyr Tydfil.   Parents Henry and Margaret LONG both d1848.
(1841 Census never found, old post details at end).

1881 Census  :    Eliza JONES  46  is at 8 High Germany  -  she is sharing a house with an Ann ‘  HILLY’ (HEALEY) but checked and pretty sure it is not her sister Ann LONG.
** Next door is a John LONG 22 = Hannah nee Collins?
No sign of  sister Ann LONG..   

  Only thing I could find for Ann LONG   :
Death  1881 March qt  -   Ann LONG aged 43    -  age a bit out but as her age varies sent for Certificate anyway  .. Arrived today  :
   Ann LONG 43  Widow  Found in  doorway in Lower Merthyr Tydfil, died of exposure to frost and cold outside, Lower Merthyr Tydfil.  :(
Informant the Coroner and an Inquest..
Undecided if it is my Ann or not ?? Not a Widow as far as I know and wrong part of Town?

 1861 Census  :   there is a Ann LONG that could fit the one from death certificate.
 Married to Patrick LONG 1833 Waterford Ireland and Son John LONG 1879 MT  **
I can’t find any sign of the parents after 1871, however but their son John ** appears to be living
Next door to my Ann LONGs sister, Eliza JONES in 1881 Census   ..    Coincidence? 

Not sure whether to  take a risk and try and obtain the Coroner’s Report? Or am I missing something obvious?
Any thoughts would be welcome, thank you.

Previous post about Eliza and Ann in 1841.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340503.msg2242554.html#msg2242554

Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 November 10 10:29 GMT (UK) »
if you could get access to a local newspaper around the date of the inquest, you may get more info about her background than from the coroner's report.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 November 10 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Opsprey

Will try that, thank you!

Reyz
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 November 10 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi There,
Did your Ann LOng marry.???
There are Ann Long Marriages on FreeBMD around 1857 and 1867 in M. Tydfil
The date of Ann Long Christening is 13th December 1835  Merthyr Tydfil
Daughter of Margaret and Henry Long

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David - Cardiff Pontypridd
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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 November 10 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Heddwch

Do not think so, as Ann was single on the 1861 and 1871 Census....
But who knows with my family ..

Thank you  :) for your input

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Reyz
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one? COMPLETED
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 16:12 BST (UK) »
Hello, apologies this is long winded

1851 - 1871 Census Merthyr Tydfil  :  Ann LONG born c1833 in Merthyr Tydfil is living with or next door to her sister  Eliza JONES nee LONG  born 1837 Merthyr Tydfil.   Parents Henry and Margaret LONG both d1848.
(1841 Census never found, old post details at end).

1881 Census  :    Eliza JONES  46  is at 8 High Germany  -  she is sharing a house with an Ann ‘  HILLY’ (HEALEY) but checked and pretty sure it is not her sister Ann LONG.
** Next door is a John LONG 22 = Hannah nee Collins?
No sign of  sister Ann LONG..   

  Only thing I could find for Ann LONG   :
Death  1881 March qt  -   Ann LONG aged 43    -  age a bit out but as her age varies sent for Certificate anyway  .. Arrived today  :
   Ann LONG 43  Widow  Found in  doorway in Lower Merthyr Tydfil, died of exposure to frost and cold outside, Lower Merthyr Tydfil.  :(
Informant the Coroner and an Inquest..
Undecided if it is my Ann or not ?? Not a Widow as far as I know and wrong part of Town?

 1861 Census  :   there is a Ann LONG that could fit the one from death certificate.
 Married to Patrick LONG 1833 Waterford Ireland and Son John LONG 1879 MT  **
I can’t find any sign of the parents after 1871, however but their son John ** appears to be living
Next door to my Ann LONGs sister, Eliza JONES in 1881 Census   ..    Coincidence? 

Not sure whether to  take a risk and try and obtain the Coroner’s Report? Or am I missing something obvious?
Any thoughts would be welcome, thank you.

Previous post about Eliza and Ann in 1841.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340503.msg2242554.html#msg2242554
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 16:40 BST (UK) »
You have highlighted previous queries what is it that you need now  :-\
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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 17:28 BST (UK) »
I don't require anything. I have got muddled up with the COMPLETED system.
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: LONG Ann of Merthyr Tydfil is it the correct one?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 17:34 BST (UK) »
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