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Higgon/Higgins
« on: Saturday 06 November 10 03:58 GMT (UK) »
I was wondering if someone can help me with an ancestor.

I have Charles Higgon christened 19 Sep 1813 at Walton East, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He married Martha Edwards 24 Nov 1838 at Castlemartin, Pembrokeshire.

Charles' father is Evan Higgon. He was a gamekeeper according to Charles' marriage certificate. And Charles was apparently born in Spittal (next to Walton East).

Charles was buried 4 Feb 1899 at Castlemartin, Pembrokeshire.

I'm having trouble finding Evan at all.

PS: The name changes from Higgon/Higgons/Higgins/Higgins/Higon etc. throughout the censuses and certificates.

Any help appreciated!
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 November 10 08:54 GMT (UK) »
I suggest you start by looking at the various Higgon Wills of Spittal on the NLoW website.

As a gamekeeper working for one of the major families at the time Evan would have moved and worked around the estate lands spread across the 3 counties of Dyfed, so since there is no reference to Evan’s mrge at Spittal then next best reference would appear to be Evan Higgon mrd to Catherine Griffith at Newport in 1791.

I note Martha Edwards was baptised 12 Mar 1815 at Castlemartin to William & Hannah Edwards.

Could Charles Higgin have mrd a 2nd time (the age gap would appear to suggest so) since he is shown with wife Ruth and son Evan Higgon at Castlemartin in 1881. A Charles Higgon had mrd a Ruth Evans in one of the parishes covered by the Pembroke Reg District in 1864.

Whilst I cannot establish a burial for a Martha Higgon around Castlemartin there is one in the Narberth Reg District in 1840.

Hope this helps. Must rush off I'm exhibiting my free lookups and display at a Coffee Morning.

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 November 10 14:30 GMT (UK) »
I've just received the following email from a lady at the Pembrokeshire record office:

'On looking at the family tree of the Higgon family of Scolton Manor, Spittal, I cannot see an Evan Higgon in the main family line.
 
The entry in the Walton East parish register for the baptism of Charles Higgon in 1813 is interesting because, even though Charles was illegitimate, only his father’s name appears in the register.  Evan Higgon is described as a minor, which would mean under the age of 21 at that time.  Using our indexes to the censuses, I can see only one Evan Higg* in Pembrokeshire in 1841.  This was an Evan Higgin aged 45-49, of independent means, living in the parish of Treffgarne [just west of Spittal parish].  He appears again on the 1851 census, aged 54, living as a lodger in the parish of Llanstinan [just south of Fishguard] and born in the parish of Lampeter Velfrey [east of Narberth on the Carmarthenshire border].  Unfortunately, the baptism register for Lampeter Velfrey has not survived for the period prior to 1813.   However, there are Bishop’s Transcripts for Lampeter Velfrey for most years in the 18th century.  These are held at the National Library of Wales in Aberystwyth [email holi@llgc.org.uk]. There is no evidence that Evan ever married in Pembrokeshire.  His death is recorded in the July/September quarter of 1853.'

You're correct in saying that Charles remarried. And Martha was indeed baptised as you say.

I found what you say about the Higgon estate interesting. I wasn't aware it spread across '3 counties of Dyfed'. This gives me a better understanding of Evan.

I am curious if anyone is aware why one would move to Castlemartin at this time? And also, the above email says 'the baptism of Charles Higgon in 1813 is interesting because, even though Charles was illegitimate, only his father’s name appears in the register.' Why does this mean he would be illegitimate?
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 November 10 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Had a few minutes spare today at the Record Office and obtained a jpeg of the entry of Charles Higgon for your interest. Drop me your email by PM(Not on this forum) only and I will forward you a copy.
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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 April 11 15:01 BST (UK) »
I'm researching Higgon/Higgins in Pembrokeshire as well.  Do you have a Llewleyn or Llewhelin in your tree?

Elfed Higgins

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 April 11 15:04 BST (UK) »
Hey portnoy. I don't believe I do. My Higgon line goes back to William Higgon born in Abt 1835 in Spittal, Pembrokeshire and his wife Bridget. I am related to him through his son James Higgon, who married his wife Mary James in 1784 in Bletherston, Pembrokeshire.

What areas are your from?
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 April 11 01:34 BST (UK) »
Hello Elfed  :)
Welcome to Rootschat!

Which year was your relative born and in which Parish? Do you have him on any census records (if he was around 1841 onwards)?

Kind Regards
Morgan

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 July 12 20:34 BST (UK) »
I am Elfed's brother and just come across this site. We have a Llewhelin /Llewellyn bn. 1819 at Newport Pembs.
we are aware that he moved to Llwynhendy, 1841 census. The name changes from Higgons to ,eventually Higgins.
1881 census  Llewellyn Higgins and family at Hendre row Llanelli
We're quite advanced after that date but would love to know if there is anything about Llewhelin at Newport Pembs.
If anyone can help.
Diolch yn fawr.

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Re: Higgon/Higgins
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 July 12 22:34 BST (UK) »
I am Elfed's brother and just come across this site. We have a Llewhelin /Llewellyn bn. 1819 at Newport Pembs.
we are aware that he moved to Llwynhendy, 1841 census. The name changes from Higgons to ,eventually Higgins.
1881 census  Llewellyn Higgins and family at Hendre row Llanelli
We're quite advanced after that date but would love to know if there is anything about Llewhelin at Newport Pembs.
If anyone can help.
Diolch yn fawr.

A Llewhelyn Higgon mrd Anne Llewhelyn at Newport 11 Jul 1819 and may have a relationship to Evan Higgon who mrd in 1791 to Catherine Griffith also at Newport.

There is no William Higgon baptized at or around Spittal circa 1835, the nearest I can find is 1830 at Newport, and a Llewelyn Higgon baptized at Newport in 1825.

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