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Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« on: Monday 08 November 10 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Parish records related to following family group;
John Prodger and Mary Haynes, Marriage 8 Jan 1813.
Children?
John Prodger b 1813 d 1815
Sarah Prodger b mar 1815
John Prodger  b Aug 1820
Anne Prodger b Sept 1823

Above details came from Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts for Overton - Family Search web site.
Possible related census records identified as Ellesmere, Ellesmere.

Thank you Peter Prodger
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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Update;

I would like to thank Woody32 and Sigrid7 for doing some lookups for me.

This is my current scenario based on Overton BT and PR;
A John Proger and Sarah Haines had two children;
  Jane Nov 10 1805
  Elizabeth sep 1804
A Sarah Prodger b 1790 d May 1812 ( if same Sarah she was 14 when first child born)
John prodger b 1779 marries Mary Haynes 8 Jan 1813 (Possibly Sarah's sister?)
Children are;
  John b 1813 d 1815
  Sarah b mar 1815
  John b Aug 1820 ( this is my GGGrandfather 98% sure)
  Anne b Sep 1823

The 1841 census has a John and Mary Prodger in Township of Trench, Ellesmere, Ellesmere but ages are 1786 and 1787 respectively.

I also have a Sarah Prodger (father John) marrying George Clarke on 28 Dec 1837. I have sent for the certificate. I am assuming this is Sarah b 1815. I will follow up on Haines/Haynes sisters.
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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Follow up request

Woody32's lookup data for Overton baptisms and burials covered the period 1783 - 1812. If anyone can look before or after these dates for any of the people of interest above it would be appreciated.

Regards Peter Prodger
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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Now exactly the same family,  but same name - same village.
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Chester Probate Records, 1521-1858 
   Phineas Prodger : will, 1840

http://hdl.handle.net/10107/551159

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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Wilcoxon. This is new for me.

The BT's and PR's for Overton have about 40-50 prodger/proger records, many of them tied to Phineas Prodger. I have not been able to link my John to the Phineas line. Phineas's line had money, my line were agricultural labour. John Prodger b 1820 ended up in the Army. Whether it was necessity or adventure I don't know.

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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Still not the right line then, but interesting reading. Phineas is the brother of this Thomas.
Proger, Thomas, Chirk, Denbigh 
  Thomas Proger : will, 1803.
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/445716

Proger, David, Hanmer, Flint, Yeoman 
  David Proger : will, 1743
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/284836

There are 15 Proger wills, but most are in South Wales.
http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en
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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 November 10 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Update -
I found John and Mary in 1851 census in Trench. John was born in Knolton Bryn and Mary was born in Trench.
I also found a second John Prodger, same age, 72 in Bryns Cottages Overton. (thank you Rebecca) No wife listed but it indicates he is married. This John is with 4 grandchildren surname Clarke. He is also on same page as a Thomas Prodger and family including his father Joseph. I am still waiting for the marriage certificate for Sarah Prodger and George Clarke. I believe these are the children from this marriage. Indicating Sarah may be member of Thomas Prodger family

My family connection is with the John and Mary in the Trench census. What is the likelyhood that the two John's are the same person? Trench and Bryn are only a few miles apart. The two census pages have different handwriting. Has anyone seen duplicate entries before?

Regards Peter
PS There is also an Edward Haynes family on same page as John and Mary in Trench. Haynes is Mary's maiden name. 
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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 March 11 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi
My name is Robert prodger,my grandfather was joseph and lived in Penley,for a while then Ellsmere before moving to whitchurch. my great grandfather is buried in Overton

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Re: Prodger Lookup - Overton Parish Flintshire
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 October 11 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Prodge
I missed your post when you originally made it. I sent you a message with contact details.
regards
Peter
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