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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 November 10 12:00 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Osprey, looks like 1 marriage;
Also in Devon;
LECOLISH HITCHINS Holman, 23 November 1817, Tavistock
WILLIAM Holman, 10 December 1815, Tavistock
Both to JAMES/GRACE
(F/S Pilot)

Grace TRENWITH, Christened 07 January 1787, Redruth, Cornwall
Parents WILLM/ELIZTH
(Extracted IGI)
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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 November 10 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi my Holman's originated in Cornwall, although i cannot connect to you at the moment i have started to compile a database of Holman's in Cornwall which i can check at home to see if your Holman's appear  :)
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 November 10 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Siblings on batch;
JANE, 19 March 1792
WILLIAM, 20 May 1798

Possible Marriage;
William TRENWITH
Elizabeth WOOLCOCK, 08 July 1786, Redruth, Cornwall

Trish :)
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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 November 10 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Trish, those Holman baptisms are in the Wesleyan Church, so looks like the family were non-conformist. IGI has Jecoliah - wonder if it's a mistranscription of Josiah?

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 November 10 12:27 GMT (UK) »
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 November 10 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ospry,
Looks like Josiah was a different child;

Looks to me like they moved around a lot ;)
Must admit I am getting confused.
Trying to find all the Children is like a needle in a haystack.
If they married 1804 then there must be other Children.
So far we have;
Jerusha 1807
Lecolish/Jecoliah 1815
William 1817
JOSIAH, Christened 14 Oct 1821, Gwennap to James/Grace (F/S Pilot)
Emily 1825

Elizabeth from 1841 Census may be a Wife or Daug?
Cant find anything for her.

Hi Blacky55,
So I guess you are in Australia if you are descended from Josiah?

Trish :)
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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 November 10 17:47 GMT (UK) »
just looked at the original of the 1841 and there's a line between Jerusha & Elizabeth, so she may not be part of the family.


Josiah's marriage
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=628915&dbtype=marriages&formval=

& baptism of a daughter
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=1396849&dbtype=baptisms&formval=
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 November 10 19:02 GMT (UK) »
i have found in Crowan a JOhn Eustice bp. 01 June 1834 s/o John & Grace assuming this is Grace Eustice
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: James and Grace HOLMAN
« Reply #17 on: Friday 12 November 10 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish and Osprey

Thanks for all the great information.

Yes I am in Australia.

My family records show the children of James ( born 29 July 1777) and Grace ( no records)to be

John Holman - born 6th March 1805
Jerusha Reed Holman born 20 March 1807
Elizabeth Holman  Born 20 September 1810
Eliza Holman born 27th February 1812
James Holman born 6 Feb 1814
William Holman born 16 November 1815
Jecholiah Holman born 29 October 1817
Josiah Holman ( my GGG Grandfather buried over the largest gold mine in Australia - Cadia) born 27 September 1821
Henry Holman born 22 June 1823
Emily Holman born 2 Feb 1825

Josiah was a copper miner and travelled the world  finally settling in Cadia NSW where he erected a Cornish Engine

Josiah married Elizabeth Simmons born 13 October 1823

They had the following offspring

Elizabeth Simmons Holman  born 21 December 1842 ( not very long after the marriage)
Emily Holman  b 10 January 1844 died as an infant
John Henry Holman 12 October 1846

Emily Louisa Holman  15 November 1849 born in Brazil
Josiah Holman 10 October 1853
Charles William Holman Born Capetown ( my G Grandfather) 13 January 1857
Annie Holman  Born New Zealand 2 Nov 1859