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Re: cotton industry in Cheshire
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Suzy,

I resurrect this old thread to ask, have you seen a book called...

Photographic Pedigree of the Descendants of Isaac & Rachel Wilson 1740
compiled by R Seymour Benson and published 1912
(plus a supplement published 1920)

I currently have my father's copies of these books. There are photos of John Wright CREWDSON and Nora BELLHOUSE and many other relations beside.

The family trees in the book show how complicated the inter-married Quaker families are for family historians ! One of John Wright CREWDSON's great grandmothers (Rachel CREWDSON) was the sister of one of his grandfathers (Joseph CREWDSON). These two siblings had a brother Isaac who was my 4xgt Grandfather. I think that Isaac was connected to Horrocks, Crewdson & Co, but I am not sure why[/b] I think that  :)

Are your husband's family still Quakers? If not, do you know when they left ? Many Crewdsons, and other prominent Quakers in the area, left the Society of Friends in the late 1830's in a secession led by Isaac.
(See eg http://www.qhpress.org/quakerpages/qwhp/bfhstbc.htm)

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Re: cotton industry in Cheshire
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello Hugh in Sheffield

Very many thanks for resurrecting the thread again. 

No I have not seen the book Photographic Pedigree of the Descendants of Isaac and Rachel Wilson 1740, but it sounds VERY interesting.  I would love to see a copy.  I shall have to see if my local library can find a copy for me to borrow or read through.

No, my husband was unaware that he had Quaker connections; we are Christians, but not Quakers. 

I had done some research, and found Quaker Crewdsons up in the Lake District, but could not find any real connection.  I think I shall probably find the missing parts when I can read that book and look at the family tree!   

I hope to read the article on the Quaker's page later on today.

Are you a Quaker? Are you a Crewdson?

Many thanks again

Suzy

UK surnames:  Adkins, Burton, Bellhouse, Crewdson, Jowitt, Heathcote, Severne, Tyers, Drane,
Exshaw - Dublin, India
Love, Kerr - Scotland, Hertfordshire
Barbour, McDowall - Scotland
(van) Maseyk -India, Netherlands, Australia, Syria
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Re: cotton industry in Cheshire
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 18:12 GMT (UK) »
hello Suzy,

No I am not a Quaker or a Crewdson :) Isaac married Elizabeth JOWITT and their daughter Mary married Henry WATERHOUSE. I am a Waterhouse descended from Henry and Mary.

Now I think about it, there wasn't much chance that John Wright CREWDSON would be a Quaker since he was descended from JOWITTs who were siblings of Elizabeth and CREWDSONs who were siblings of Isaac (three CREWDSON siblings married three JOWITT siblings!) The chances are that all these Crewdsons left the Quakers in the 1830's. Isaac started his own sect when he left. Others became Plymouth Brethren or Anglicans.

There is another book called The Crisis of the Quaker Contest in Manchester which I have only seen in Friends House in London (but I am trying to buy a copy). This is a blow by blow account of the contoversy from the point of view of the secessionists, and has the texts of resignation letters, including one written by Henry and Mary Waterhouse. It would be interesting to see what other Crewdsons are included.

I have a bunch of information about the Beaconites somewhere but I haven't studied these lines for some time - I will have to dig them out.

Before my first message, I had to make my own version of the 'simple' tree in the book, so that I could understand it  :D Would you like me to send you a copy? - it is a single page MSWord document. If so, can you pm me an email address?

Hugh

ps Although I live in Yorkshire, my father lives just across the moor from you in Meavy :)



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Re: cotton industry in Cheshire
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 11:54 BST (UK) »
Hello Folks - I am a contributor to the Alderley Edge History Group and am currently researching the Crewdson families which lived in the village.  The family is mentioned in Katharine Chorley's book "Manchester Made Them" as one of the wealthiest and most influential in the village.  A problem I have is that some of the contact details on this page e.g. "spinningtheweb org uk" and the website crewdson family btinternet co uk are no longer operational, so if anyone who knows any details of the Crewdsons who lived in Alderley Edge I would be most grateful.  Looking forward to any contributions.  Kind regards.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 19:42 BST (UK) »
Is this any use?
"Spinning the web - the story of the cotton industry"
"Brings together some 20,000 items from libraries, museums and archives of North West England"
https://open.conted.ox.ac.uk/resources/link/spinning-web-story-cotton-industry
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Maiden Stone - Many thanks for your post.  I have tried to access the 'spinning the web' site but it never opens.  I am looking for any history about the Crewdson family of Alderley Edge and there was a number of posts about 15 years ago, but nothing since then.

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Re: cotton industry in Cheshire
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 August 20 23:24 BST (UK) »
This is a slightly udated version of the family tree I offered Suzy back in the day. The two generations at the bottom are the ones connected to Alderley Edge and there are photographs of them in the photographic pedigree. (The photos are passport size).

I also have a supplement to the pedigree which has additional photos of Lilian Dora BENSON nee CREWSON and her husband, as well as a son of John Wright and Nora who died of wounds on the Somme in 1916.

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 August 20 09:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Hugh.  Very many thanks for your prompt and helpful response.  As a newcomer to this site I have tried to access the 'spinningtheweb' site but it seems to have closed down.  Do you have any ideas as to how I might access its successor if there is one ??  Also I am a bit lost on what you mean about the 'pedigree' information.  How can I access that information.  With kind regards, JGraham.

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 27 August 20 00:05 BST (UK) »
'Pedgree' refers to the Photographic Pedigree by R Seymour Benson which I cited in my old messages and also on the sketchy family tree above. The main volume was published in 1912 and there is a supplement published in 1912.

I can't find a complete version of these online though the Alamy image archive seems to have some, maybe all, the photographs.

Here are two scans of the relevant pages. The different  coloured text relates to the different generations.

Hugh
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