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FINDING MY GRANDAD
« on: Friday 12 November 10 10:04 GMT (UK) »
I have spent hours this week searching the free WW1 Army Records for my grandfather Henry or Harry Scholes born in Cheetham Hill Manchester with parents Edwin and Lucy.  I have found a possible on page 19356 of the Service Records but can't clarify as there is no address or next of kin on papers.  I have found his brother Walter and a possible death of another brother Edwin.

I know he was in France in the war and injured but came home.  Why can't I find him?
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock

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Re: FINDING MY GRANDAD
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 November 10 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Only about 30% of records survived bombing by the Luftwaffe in WW2 Blitz.If you cant see them on ancestry they are more than likely burned. :(
Do you have any medals of his they will have regimental details on rims.

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Re: FINDING MY GRANDAD
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 November 10 10:24 GMT (UK) »
No, no other clues unfortunately! :(
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 November 10 10:30 GMT (UK) »
What regiment did his brothers join its possible he enlisted in the same?
May be able to narrow your search.

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Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.

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Re: FINDING MY GRANDAD
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 November 10 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Brother William joined the Shropshire Light Infantry which I thought was strange when they lived in Manchester.  Haven't worked out why yet!
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Re: FINDING MY GRANDAD
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 November 10 22:11 GMT (UK) »
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No, no other clues unfortunately!

1. Have you found him in 1911 census to see what his address was then. It may well be different from birth address

2, When was he born.

3. Did he marry or have children during WW1, if so certs should give more clues

4. Of the Medal Cards for "Henry Scholes" 15100 in Manchester Regt has a Service records. Born 1891 living at 230 Garforth Street, Chadderton Oldham

5.Another MIC is for Henry Scholes Royal Irish Regiment & Labour Corps. Again a service record exists showing an address in Blackburn

6 There is a Pension record for Henry Scholes, son of Thomas Scholes of Yew Tree Farm Oldham (R W Regt). Does not seem to have served abroad, so no Medal Card

7. Seems to leave ou with Henry Scholes of East Lancs Regt. no  34662. You could try the Regt Museum who are very helpful

8 And Henry Scholes    S/6942  of Rifle Brigade has MIC

9. You can see who to eliminate, then try the same with Harry Scholes

10. If he did not serve abroad and has not therefore a MIC he would be difficult to trace

11 For what its worth he was at Pickston St, Manchester in 1901 census and was born circa 1887

12. Nobody says this is easy, but with a dint of work, you should be able to find him
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 November 10 12:33 GMT (UK) »
corisande - Thanks very much for your suggestions.  I have already researched some of these and looked at Pension records etc , the Chadderton, Blackburn and Oldham Harry's were all dead ends.  The Harry 39013 Lancashire Fusiliers is a possible but the address isn't right in Salford and shows no next of kin. 

His birthdate is March 1887 born in Cheetham Hill, Manchester and I know he served and was injured in France.  He didn't marry till after the war 1920 when his address was Conran Street, Harpurhey, M/c and previously Russell Street, Crumpsall. 

I will try the Regimental Museum as you suggest.  Thanks again
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 November 10 12:49 GMT (UK) »
He was living with his widowed mother in 1911 census at
173 Conran St Harpurhey Manchester

His trade was "   Maker Up Cotton Trade"
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 November 10 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if this is him - in the National Roll of the Great War there is mention of: H.A.SCHOLES, 6th Lancs Fusiliers, served Egypt and Gallipoli, wounded Aug 1915, discharged medically unfit. An address for him is given as Buile Street, Higher Broughton.
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