Hugh UXLEY help needed

[jobdiesel]

Hi

Hugh Uxley is listed on my grandmother's birth certificate as her father with the occupation of travelling showman.  I have searched all the records I can think of, but still cannot find any trace of him.  He would have been in the Poole area of Dorset in 1922/23.  If anyone has any information on him, I'd be extremely grateful.

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Was he married to your great grandmother?  If so - what is the mothers name and maiden name on the birth cert

[jobdiesel]

Hi

We don't think he was married to my gt grandmother because we can find no record of a marriage.  My grandmother certainly had no idea who he was and was told that her mother (on the birth certificate) was her adopted mother and not her biological mother.  The mother's maiden name was Alice Waylett, though she was on the birth certificate as Alice Uxley (nee Waylett).  She had been married previously to a William Harmer who died in the first World War.  It looks as though there was an unofficial adoption, though why that should be we have no idea.  Perhaps my gran was actually daughter to someone else in the family?  It's all a bit of a puzzle.

Thanks

[CaroleW]

If Alice was not her biological mother then she lied when she registered the birth

This is Alice's marriage to William Harmer on 25.2.1912 at Walworth St John The Evangelist Southwark Surrey

Alice Waylett  26 spinster - father John - deceased - general dealer

William Harmer 24 bachelor occ stoker Royal Navy HMS Ranger- father William - general dealer

There is an entry on www.cwgc.org for William

In Memory of Leading Stoker WILLIAM HARMER

K/4230, H.M.S. "Negro.", Royal Navy who died on 21 December 1916

Remembered with honour PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

There were 2 children born to that marriage in 1912 and 1914 - both in Southwark

[jobdiesel]

Hi

Yes, I think there was some fudging on the birth certificate.  The birth was registered by her sister (the "aunt"), Louisa Humphreys, nee Waylett.  It looks as though they have tried to cover up the illegitimacy so it may be that I will never find out the true mother or father.  I wonder why she would have taken in someone else's child?  I feel like I wish I had known her to ask.  And if the father really was a travelling showman, I wonder what he did exactly.  Could have been anything from lion tamer to selling candyfloss!

thanks for the other information.  We have info on Mille, whom I met, but not that there was another child.

Regards

[CaroleW]

This could be why you didn't know about the child b 1912

Deaths September qtr 1912

Elizabeth A Harmer age 0  Southwark  1d 102

[jobdiesel]

The aunt who registered the birth of Mary Rebecca Uxley was Louisa Humphreys.  She was married to a Hugh Boswell Humphreys.  In the 1911 census he is listed as a butcher, but Boswell is a name I've come across before regarding travelling families.  Might there be a link here?  It could just be all coinicdental.  grasping at straws.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Hugh Boswell Humphreys was b 1887 in Southwark Surrey.  1891 entry may be him -shown as b Newington parents George & Harriet.  George was a Clerk

Hugh & Louisa married 25.12.1910 at  Walworth St Peter  Southwark Surrey

Hugh - 24 - occ butcher - father George Albert - occ Clerk

Louisa - 25 - paper bag maker - father John - occ florist

Witnesses Joseph William Smith & Phyllis Humphreys

Phyllis was his sister b 1889/90

Tracing George & Harriet back to their marriage there is no indication of any Traveller connection

She was Hariet Fuller and they married 1872.  His father was George Crisp Humphreys occ cooper and hers was Joseph Fuller - occ pastry cook

[aliceb]

Hello jobsdiesel. I think we may be related. My mums, ( my great grandmother) grandmother is Louisa Waylett, Alice wayletts sister. Please get in touch if so. Are you Rebecca’s child and is Rebecca alive? If so my mum and her would be cousins. Also Who was Alice waylett and William harmers 2nd child? Be lovely to know more. Best wishes, Alice