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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 May 16 20:33 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Charles Pennefather is my great-great-grandfather. His daughter, Christina, is my great grandmother. I would love to hear any information or see any photos if you have any?! At the moment there is a century old rumour in my family that Charles had a 'secret' family. I am hoping this to be solved!

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks

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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 May 16 21:27 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat, just when/where was Christina born, and were you aware of the children in the 1901 census?
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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #11 on: Friday 13 May 16 22:04 BST (UK) »
"Grantham Journal Lincolnshire, England
4 Sep 1880 ACCIDENT TO AN OFFICER. A serious accident occurred to Captain Charles Edward Pennefather, the 4th (Queen's Own) Hussars, on Saturday last, when proceeding with party of officers in a brake from Aldershot to Windsor"

Morning Post London, England
23 Aug 1895 WILLS AND BEQUESTS
"The Irish probate of the will of Mr. Edward Pennefather, Q.C., of 6, Fitzwilliam- place, Dublin, who died on February 22, granted at Dublin to Samuel Gordon and Charles Edward Pennefather, the son"

Dublin Daily Express Dublin, Republic of Ireland
26 Feb 1895 FUNERAL MR E PENNEFATHER "Remains of the Mr Edward Penefather were removed from his residence. Fitzwilliam place for interment at the burial ground attached to Delgany Church"

Quite a bit in the newspapers
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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 May 16 22:32 BST (UK) »
Harold Wilfred Armine Freese-Pennefather, Esquire,. C.M.G., to be Her Majesty's Ambassador Extra- ordinary and Plenipotentiary at Rabat
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/40981/page/502/data.pdf

NOTICE is hereby given, that HAROLD WILFRID
ARMINE FREESE-PENNEFATHER
of Rathsallagh, in the county of Wicklow, heretofore
known, as Harold Wilfrid Armine Freese, being a
British subject, 'has, by a deed poll, dated the 24th
day of February, 1922, and enrolled  in the Central
Office of the Supreme Court, on the 1st day of March,
1922, assumed and adopted the surname of Pennefather,
in addition to the said surname of Freese.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32628/page/1890/data.pdf

HAROLD WILFRID ARMINE FREESE-PENNEFATHER
1907-1967 his father was His father, the Rev. F. E.
Freese, who died in 1935.  http://www.alpinejournal.org.uk/Contents/Contents_1967_files/AJ%201967%20355-361%20In%20Memoriam.pdf

The Last of the Pennefathers

The last of the Pennefathers to reside at Rathsallagh was the wonderfully named British diplomat, Harold Wilfrid Armine Freese-Pennefather who succeeded to the estate on the death without issue male of his great uncle Fred Pennefather in February 1921. In 1925 Harold took on the name Pennefather in order to come in to the property. Harold Freese- Pennefather was born on 2nd March 1907, the only son of Edith Wood and her husband, the Rev. Frederick Freese, Vicar of St. Ethelreda, in Fulham. Edith's mother Susan was Frederick William Pennefather's only sister; hence the line of succession.
http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_houses/hist_hse_rathsallagh.htm#last

Frederick William Penefather died 1921
FREDERICK WILLIAM PENNEFATHER,
Deceased.
NOTICE is hereby given', that all creditors and
other persons having any claims against the
estate of Frederick William Pennefather, late of
Rathsallagh, Colbinstown, County Wicklow, Ireland,
and of the New University Club, Saint James'-
street, London, Barrister-at-Law (who died on the
6th day of February, 1921, and whose will was proved
in London)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32352/page/4673/data.pdf
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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 May 16 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks for that, wondering just who the mother was and under what birth name were the children in 1901?
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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 May 16 22:52 BST (UK) »
Susan Penefather (only sister of Frederick Pennefather) married Mr John Gathorne Wood
Edith Wood their daughter married Rev. Frederick Freese, Vicar (of St. Ethelreda, in Fulham)
Harold Freese was born on 2nd March 1907 (only son) (two older sisters??)
He changed his name by deed poll to Harold Freese- Pennefather in 1922 to inherit property.

Frederick Penefather was his fathers 4th son, he outlived 3 older brothers!
Good history here,that lines up with the newspapers I found
http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_houses/hist_hse_rathsallagh.htm#penne

Susan Mary Pennefather was born about 1842 in of Rathsalla, Co. Wicklow, Ireland. She died 2 on 18 Dec 1864 in district of Hastings, Sussex. She married John Gathorne Wood on 3 Dec 1863 in St. Stephens, Dublin, Ireland. They had the following children: Evelyn Emily Wood and Edith Susan Mary Wood."

http://www.beanweb.net/ft/bean/pafg363.htm#12106

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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 14 May 16 05:35 BST (UK) »
I am pretty sure Rev.Fredrick Freese , Vicar (of St. Ethelreda, in Fulham) has the full name of REVD. FREDERICK EDMESTON FREESE.
http://www.stethswithstclems.org.uk/history/freese.html

FREDERICK EDMESTON FREESE born in Kent in 1863, Event Quarter 3, District GRAVESEND.
He possibly married Edith in 1892 in Middlesex, a Wesminster marriage listing.

Edith Susan Mary WOOD married Rev Frederick Edmeston FREESE 1892, St Martin in the Field, London
http://www.tolliss.com/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I13765&ged=Tolliss

Daughters
Evelyn Freese was born 1 about 1893 in Yokohama, Japan
Audrey Marion Freese was born 1 in 1896 in Canterbury, Kent (Dec qtr)
Only son?
Harold Wilfrid Armine Freese born 1907 (Where? Wiesbaden in Germany or Ireland birth not found yet?)

Edith Susan Mary Freese dies 1947 aged 82,Rathsallagh, Colbinstown, Co Wicklow

----> http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/ has a passenger list where Harold WA Freese Pennefather declares his birth place as Wiesbaden, Germany.

((All the glory to me for finding his birth place, pats self on back))





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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 14 May 16 07:44 BST (UK) »
Christina Eva Pennefather

Christina PENNEFATHER's parents: Charles Edward PENNEFATHER ( - ) and Mary SPARLING ( - )
Christina Eva PENNEFATHER's siblings: Edward Charles PENNEFATHER (1890- ) and Harrietta Josephina PENNEFATHER (1898- )

Some records
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/6b694c0123354
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/8a99f90116676
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/0c186b0116047

Possible other siblings (with which lady/ladies??)
Violet M Pennefather born in 1897 in  Petham Kent (1901 census, England, Sussex, Rye)
Frederick C Pennefather born in 1900 in Hastings (1901 census, England, Sussex, Rye)

"Captain (Charles Edward) Pennefather had no legitimate children?(Mary Sparlings children were baptised though?) , he was succeeded by his only surviving brother, Frederick (Fred) William Pennefather"
http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_houses/hist_hse_rathsallagh.htm#leisure

Charles E Pennefathers death an account by Frederick W Pennefather
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZH19050112.2.88
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Re: Captain Charles E. Pennefather
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 14 May 16 21:18 BST (UK) »
1901 Irish census
Residents of a house 2 in Rathsallagh Demesne (Rathsallagh, Wicklow)
Sparling   Josephine   25   Female   Head of Family   Roman Catholic
Sparling   Statia   18   Female   Sister   Roman Catholic
Sparling   Katie   13   Female   Sister   Roman Catholic
Pennefather   Lily   1   Female   Daughter
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Rathsallagh/Rathsallagh_Demesne/1809054/

Charles Pennefather born 1901 Dublin, mothers name Sparling
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/da8dbd1369085

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