CHALONER/CHALLONER *COMPLETED*

[david64]

There are a number of Chalenors around Denbigshire here:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/pedigree.php?personID=I66091&tree=Welsh

[Crocus65]

Thanks for the link!

[Rol]

I have an idea that there is a Chaloner pedigree somewhere in one of the BL Harleian MSS that originally came from the 17th c. Randle Holmes heraldic practice at Chester.  As you perhaps know,  the first Randle Holmes married the widow of Thomas Chaloner of Chester,  and succeeded to his pedigree collections and genealogical research as well as to his wife.  Somewhere in the range Harl. 1970 to Harl. 1977,  I would guess.

An alternative way to get at info about this Chester branch would be find a library that subscribes to the manuscript transcriptions published in the volumes of the Harleian Society (ongoing).  Their vol. 49 prints the heralds' visitation pedigrees of Cheshire collected in 1613.  Quite a full Chaloner tree appears on pp.59-61 there. Unfortunately no Jonas C. is shown in the index,  but this source and/or Bartrum are well worth checking out for background purposes.

I see per the LDS site that "1521" is the DoB attributed to the Thomas Chaloner who was knighted and based in London.  They source this to Bartrum's WG2 (vol.8 p.1251) -- so maybe he cites primary evidence ibid? ...

For the sake of completeness (although he is apparently not in your line),  I ought perhaps to add that there is a piece in the Dictionary of National Biography about Sir TC kt.  This gives his dates as 1521-65 and therefore seems to have been Bartrum's authority for the dates shown in WG2.


Rol

[Crocus65]

Thank you for this. We've now found the information we were looking for but, as a newbie to this forum, I don't know how to put on a notification to people that this search is now *completed*. Can you advise?

[hiraeth]

Thank you for this. We've now found the information we were looking for but, as a newbie to this forum, I don't know how to put on a notification to people that this search is now *completed*. Can you advise?

Hi Crocus65

Just go to your original post, click on the modify button (upper right), add COMPLETED to the subject and Save

Heather

[Rol]

Hello Crocus,

... We've now found the information we were looking for ...

Excellent,  that is good news.

Looking back at your original enquiry,  as amended by your Replies 4 + 6,  I am reminded that it fell into two parts:

(a)  baptism [plus any other available info?] for Jonas Chaloner,  b. Staffordshire,  ca. 1566;  and

(b)  baptism for his son Thomas Chaloner (headmaster of Shrewsbury 1637-45),  b. Llansilin,  ca. 1600.

Have you found info about both men,  or only for Thomas?  If only for Thomas,  does COMPLETED mean that for now you have decided that it would be best to pause the search for his father -- or,  indeed,  have you decided to grant him full "brickwall" status?

Either way,  bearing in mind that the search-engines could bring people to this web page for years to come,  I am sure that it would be a kindness from their standpoint if you could post brief details of the info you have now discovered,  plus a ref. to the source you used.

(And even current contributors to the thread may be mildly curious!)


Rol

[david64]

Don't know of these are of any help. From Llansantffriad-ym-Mechain:

John, s. of Thomas Challenor, Lloran, parish of Llansilin, bpt. 9 Jan 1677
Thomas, s. of Thomas Chaliner, bpt. 22 Jun 1678
Jane, d. of Thomas Chaliner, bpt. 17 Dec 1679

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[yllahc]

Hello Rol. I note that you want info on Jonas Challoner. Why is this? I can supply the info I have, but am curious about your interest. I can also supply some info on Thomas Chaloner, Headmaster of Shrewsbury School. Let me know.