William Thomas Chemist

[Ladyhawk]

deleted as posted same info. 

[jorose]

Looks like something close to "Borout" to me (not at all like the "on" in "Jones" but quite like the "ou" in "Labourer", see also the "t" to at the end of "Servant").

The note I think to the right indicates though that this was later modified "for Barout read Baron".

[Ladyhawk]

Hi jorose,

I enlarged the note and have to say it does look like baron, still no marriage other than the Elizabeth Burrow JONES to William THOMAS on FreeBMD.

To confirm mother's maiden name what about ordering the birth certificate of William Henry THOMAS

Did a search 1850 - 1854 on FreeBMD only these two came up -  can't be sure whether it is the 1851 that is your William
Perhaps you could ask for help on the Gloucester board

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

William Henry THOMAS
Dec q 1851
Bristol vol 11 page 149

William Henry THOMAS
Mar q 1853
Bristol vol 6a page 35
parents William THOMAS Caroline
bpt. 13/3/1853 Bristol - extracted IGI record



 

[keyboard86]

Hi to all that have offered help on this thread, I personally believe, that the family that is in Islington in 1861 ie the Roughsedges, contains the correct William Henry Thomas, this is the 1861 for the William/Caroline
William Thomas 33 occ Baker
Caroline 36
William H 8
Maria 9

Alias M 6
Ellen A
Census Ref RG07/1726/78/12
Keyboard86

[nmcasey]

Hello all I sent away for the birth certificate of William Henry Thomas born in the December quarter of 1851 there were
8 names .

There was only one name for Bristol so I paid the money and sent for the certificate.

What do you think I got the wrong one, that had nothing to do with me.

I looked at the list again and I should have chosen the one from Clifton which is located in Bristol.

How hard is it to have the mothers maiden name on the indexes. So now I have pay again to get the correct one.

This is a good learning curve.

Regards
NC

[GailB]

Hi NC

I was searching for Roughsedge and came across this post. Can't help with that line as they are not the one's I'm searching for. However, the Ellen Jones who married in Queensland is certainly on my tree as are her parents William Wilson Jones and Margaret Sherlock.

I can't read the exact place in Cheshire from the marriage certificate that states where Ellen was born but she was born in Hoylake and baptised in Holy Trinity Hoylake on 9 July 1850. She is my 2nd cousin 4x removed 

Gail

[GailB]

Hi again NC

Don't want to throw a spanner in the works but I can't find William arriving in Australia in 1871 on the Royal Dane, I can however, find Ellen Jones arriving on that ship in Brisbane on 25 September 1869. I have her on the 1851 and 1861 Census in Hoylake but not 1871 so it would seem to fit.

Just found something very interesting though and could be another red herring but the old IGI which is still accessible has the following baptism entry:

William Henry Thomas   
Pedigree
    Male       
         
Event(s):
   Birth:    
01 NOV 1851     
   Christening:    
04 JUN 1871     St Peters, Hereford, Hereford, England
   Death:
   Burial:
         
Parents:
    Father:    William Thomas   
Family
    Mother:    Elizabeth Bowen

This may mean he was baptised as an adult, and just because the baptism is in Herefordshire doesn't mean he wasn't born in Bristol.

Any thoughts on this ?

Gail

[nmcasey]

Gail
        Thank you for the help I final got  William Henry Thomas
birth certificate.

He worked for the Queensland railway they showed he was
born in 1851 in November in Bristol.

The only one showed a William Henry Thomas Born Bristol
1851 in November when I got  it back after spending $28.00
it was not the correct one.

Then I had another look and there was a William Henry Thomas born Clifton which is a suburb of Btistol which I did not know. So another $28.00 later and this is the correct one.

His mother was "Elizabeth Burrow Jones" her mother
and father where "William Jones" and  "Elizabeth Burrows"

Regards
NC
 

[Ladyhawk]

I final got  William Henry Thomas birth certificate

He worked for the Queensland railway they showed he was
born in 1851 in November in Bristol.

His mother was "Elizabeth Burrow Jones"
her mother and father where "William Jones" and  "Elizabeth Burrows"

Ellen Burrow JONES married 26/3/1857 St. Nicholas, Bristol father named as William JONES

Bapt.
Ellen Burrow JONES
26/1/1832 St. Nicholas, Bristol parents William JONES & Elizabeth

marriage
William JONES
Elizabeth BURROW
10/11/1826 St. James' Parish, Bristol

Sarah Burrow JONES bn 1834 father William JONES
married 3/1/1855 Holy Trinity Church, Bristol
Thomas Henry Waite HALL bn 1835 father Samuel HALL

Sarah Burrow Jones
 08 Oct 1833  St Nicholas, Bristol Father: William Jones Mother: Elizabeth Jones

William Burrow JONES married 1850 Winterbourne, Glouc
Susanna Francis PARKER bn 1830 father Edward

bpts.
William Burrow JONES
1/10/1827 St. Nicholas, Bristol father William JONES mother Elizabeth

William THOMAS father Stephen THOMAS
Elizabeth Burrow JONES father William JONES
29/08/1849 St. Nicholas, Bristol Gloucester

NC fantastic to have a result and to confirm that all info. posted has turned out to be correct - well done everyone

for info. in case you do not have this census looks to be Elizabeth Jones with parents & siblings on 1841c plus brother Robert's bapt. & marriage

HO107; Piece 373; Book: 9; Civil Parish: St Nicholas ED 7; Folio: 19; Page: 45;
Bridge Street St Nicholas Bristol
William Jones 35 occ ? can’t make it out 
William 13
Robert 9
Elizabeth 35
ELIZABETH 11
Ellen 8
Sarah 6

Robert Burrows Jones
Christening 10 Jun 1831 St. Nicholas, Bristol, Gloucester
Father William Jones Mother Elizabeth

Robert Barrow Jones father William Jones
11 Jul 1866 St Mary, Bitton Gloucestershire
 Jane Sophia Wilton  father: Richard Wilton

Henry Roughsedge 1828 age: 26 single father William
Elizabeth Burrow Thomas 1829  age: 25 widowed
Marriage Date: 22 Jul 1854  St. John Bedminster, Somerset

Strange that Elizabeth's baptisms is not on family search - did you ever find it?