John Cross

[Gayla]

Can anyone help me? I am trying to get information on John Cross born about 1838 in Nottingham. Might have been Basford?  He married  Mary born approx. 1838 from North Shields Northumberland. They had 9 children including Embleton Cross born 1874 Durham, South Shields.  Have become a bit stuck.  So would be grateful to hear from anyone with information.

[welsh lady]

According to a tree on Ancestry one of John and Marys daughters had the middle name of Goymer.
The marriage below would fit in with this as its Marys maiden name
John Cross to Mary Goymer Qtr Sept 1864 Newcastle upon Tyne vol 10b page 117

Welsh Lady

[Gayla]

Thank you Welsh Lady.  I had noticed about the name Goymer, but couldn't find a connection, then started to get a bit bogged down, going over the same things again and again.

[sunflower]

Hi

There are about 6 John Cross's born in Nottingham around that time on the Notts FHS CD.  Do you have his death/ burial age so we can narrow it down?

Carol

[Gayla]

Hi Sunflower,
That was my problem,  I know he was still alive in the 1881 census living in Battersea Park Road, London.  I have found a death registered for a John Cross in Jan - March 1901 in Fulham aged 64 it could possibly be him.  I know the 1881 census is the right family as their son is called Embleton and he would have been my great grandfather.  in 1871 they were living in the civil parish of Westoe Durham, by trade he was apparently a confectioner.  That really is all I have.  Not really a great deal of help!

[sunflower]

Hi Gayla

I think you need to order John & Mary's marriage certificate to be sure who his father was.

Carol

[Burto]

Hi Gayla,
My GGGGrandfather was William Cross born 1833 in Basford to John and Mary. They had a son called John born 1837 but on the NFHS disc he was registered in Sneinton. There don't appear to be any other John Cross's baptised in Basford around 1838-does it say on the census he was born in Basford?

[Gayla]

Hi Burto

No it doesn't just Nottingham.  I  have sent away for his marriage certificate, so that I can find hopefully his parents, then I can  progress from there.  Have not received it yet, so probably will be after Christmas before going any further.  I originally thought Basford seemed most likely, but then found there were several who could be him.   Thanks to Welsh Lady who found place date and vol. no. and page of marriage, I was able to order a marriage certificate. So I am going to have to wait till it arrives.  Thanks

[Gayla]

Hi everyone who hepled with John Cross.  Have now received marriage certificate.  Not really very helpful Have found He married on 22 Sept 1864, under age it just has 'full'. He was a Druggist and confectioner, and under residence it just has 'this parish' (which was St. John's Newcastle on Tyne). The only bit of information is his father was (suprise, surprise!) John Cross, by profession a hosier. There is no help with the witnesses (have tried to find them, but doesn't seem any connection).

I have found a family on the 1851 census father John born in Beeson/buson? Nottingham profession silk glove maker and the females in the family, cotton stocking stitchers, (I wondered about a connection to father John above as a hosier?)but my John would appear  to have been born in Alfreton Derby.  Which goes against later census that say nottingham.

Anyone who can suggest any further  help would be much appreciated.
Gail