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Re: Allingham,where?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 December 10 14:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi George, there is an email for him on this:

http://ralphinla.rootsweb.ancestry.com/alsurnam.htm

Maybe that is worth a try. Last modified in 1999 so here is hoping.

Lots of other Allinghams have posted on this.

He has a differnt one - again 1999 on this one re the Allinghams of Leitrim, It looks like he established a one name study type of thing and has collected the Allinghams and their info on several  sites.

http://newsarch.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ALLINGHAM/1999-02/0918830485

The site was very busy up to 2009. The last message reads: :D

Henry Allingham, the world's oldest man, has died aged 113. He was the last survivor of the Battle of Jutland and he also saw the Battle of the Somme from the skies - he was a member of the RAF. The BBC web site has full details see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8157128.stm

The messages from199 to 2009 are on:

http://newsarch.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ALLINGHAM

Lots of ones of interest to you - for example, this chap is desended from your James:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ALLINGHAM/2001-06/0992437393

Hope you can contact him through either these emails or the rootsweb locations. cant find any recent sightings of him - but a lot of people out there researching your Allinghams.

These came up when I googled his full name + Allingham Leitrm.

Happy hunting! PM.

PS: Given your poetry writing, here is the poet himself!


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Re: Allingham,where?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 16 December 10 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi George,

Your original query was: Allingham, Where?

One theory  on the origins of the name - is as follows:

Allingham  is an English locational or residential surname. Recorded as Allingham and occasionally Elingham or Ellingham, it is what is known as a "lost" village surname. It originates from either Allingham, now a suburb of the city of Bradford in West Yorkshire, or from Allingham Hall, formerly Allingham village, near Shrewsbury, in the county of Shropshire. Both villages have or had, a similar Olde English pre 7th century origin. This is the tribal name Aella or Aelda, with "-ing" meaning people of, and "-ham", the homestead or settlement. "Lost" villages are a feature of the British Isles. It is estimated that not less than five thousand surnames do originate from places that have disappeared from the maps over the past five hundred years. The reasons are complex, but can usually be explained by changes in agricultural practice mainly in the 18th century, and more recently, increasing suburbanization. However the great medieval plagues and even war, have played some part. In this case examples of the surname recording taken from early surviving church registers of the diocese of Greater London include: Kather Elingham, a witness at St Botolphs Bishopgate on September 30th 1594, and Margery Allingham, who married John Bourder at St Mary's Putney, on September 19th 1645.

To be taken with a little salt.....

Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Allingham#ixzz18HkEyAAR

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Re: Allingham,where?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 16 December 10 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi PM,thank you for all that.Reading through(and it takes some working out),his theory is that all the Allinghams of Donegal,Leitrim,Sligo and Fermanagh are decended from the original Hugh Allingham of Donegal.I had them as far back as James but it's fantastic to have confirmation of where they were from.If I am reading it correctly this James,born Leitrim about 1795 is descended from the Donegal Allinghams.Fascinating stuff.Thank you too for the photo of William,I will have to get hold of some of his work.Is the picture of Rosalie a photo or painting.

Now to find the Welch/Welsh Dale Robinson Wamsley and possibly McBride families :)

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth


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Re: Allingham,where?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 16 December 10 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi George,

Hope you find him! Yes, That is his theory, not quite proven, in my view!
Rosalie is actually Roseline, don't know how I got that wrong. I have two of her - both photos, so I will e-mail them to you later. WW wrote lots of poems. This one could be retitled: Found at Last...for all you people out there that finally, finally figured it out!

A Gravestone

   
Far from the churchyard dig his grave,
On some green mound beside the wave;
To westward, sea and sky alone,
And sunsets. Put a mossy stone,
With mortal name and date, a harp
And bunch of wild flowers, carven sharp;
Then leave it free to winds that blow,
And patient mosses creeping; slow,
And wandering wings, and footsteps rare
Of human creature pausing there.

William Allingham

The mortal name, and hopefully dates, mother father and children being the important bit!

You will find the lot on:
http://www.poemhunter.com/william-allingham/

All he  got on his own was:

201 William Allingham, Poet, born at Ballyshannon March 19, 1824. Died in London, November 18, 1889.

But there is an interesting drawing by his wife of him on his deathbead  incuded with the inscription. Lots of other Allingham memorials on this page.

William's brother Hugh was an Historian

http://www.archive.org/stream/ballyshannonits00alligoog#page/n6/mode/2up


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Re: Allingham,where?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 December 10 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Wow,just been reading some of his poems PM,Half Waking,A Gravestone,The Boy,An Evening,A Dream,simply beautiful.The sense of longing,loss and regret of things past that can't be recovered runs very deep in some of them.I love his use of allegory,he seems to be speaking of one thing but you know it's a cover for what he really means.Thank you for introducing me to him,I will definately try and obtain some of his work.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Re: Allingham,where?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 December 10 19:24 GMT (UK) »

Rosalie Allingham was married to John Boyle  MP for Donegal. That is Rosalie there in my icon picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Boyle_%28Donegal_politician%29

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498980.msg3558224.html

@Pastmagic, Interesting note on John Boyle. He is my Great-great-granduncle. I wonder who entered the Data on wikipedia

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 December 10 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi There! He is my great gran uncle too! Which of the siblings is your great grandfather?  Here is his Father and Mother, with assorted children, and another one of him too.


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« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 December 10 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Johnnie Edward, John Gerard is the line. I bet your line is Tarrent

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« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 December 10 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Me too - Here is JE and Brigid on their wedding day: Stop me if you have all of these already!