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Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« on: Tuesday 28 December 10 21:53 GMT (UK) »
I hope I am in the right place to ask this question.  I am wondering if anyone has access to birth records for Kingston.  I am looking for an Edmund Galley born c1798-1812.  He was quite famous as the convict who received compensation and a royal pardon 44 years after he was transported to Australia.  At his trial in Devon 1836 he said he was 26 and born Kingston.   When he received his pardon in 1879 he was 80, so I don't know his DOB.
Any help appreciated.
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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 December 10 22:40 GMT (UK) »
IGI extracted record.

Edmund Galley ch. 8.12. 1811 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey

Father William  Mother Abigail
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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 December 10 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Siblings all ch.  Kingston Upon Thames to Wm and Abigail, all extracted

Joseph ch. 6.8.1809

Charles b. 19.6.1814  ch. 31.7.1814

Mary Ann b. 11.5.1819  ch. 11.7.1819

Abigale b 28.8.1816   ch. 18.9.1819

Henry b. 10.1.1821  ch. 11.2.1821   d. 17.6.1821

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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 12:46 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for an Edmund Galley born c1798-1812.  He was quite famous as the convict who received compensation and a royal pardon 44 years after he was transported to Australia.  At his trial in Devon 1836 he said he was 26 and born Kingston.   When he received his pardon in 1879 he was 80, so I don't know his DOB.

Hi Judy,

Hope some of these entries might help confirm that Edmund Galley was born about 1812 rather than between about 1798 and 1812.  It is useful to establish this because some baptisms can be "late baptisms" where the person being baptised was not of infant age.

Establishing the year of birth:

Home Office: Convict Prison Hulks: Registers and Letter Books, collection dated 1802-1849
Edmund Galley (who may have been misindexed as Gully), was shown to be aged 24, which would have meant he was born about 1812.  His date of conviction was shown as 23 Jul 1836 and the place of his conviction was Exeter.
Date Received was 10 Sep 1836 and the Ship was the Ganymede, which was moored at Woolwich and Devonport

Australian Convict Index, collection for years 1788-1868
showed Edmund Galley was aged 26 in the year 1839 and his birthplace was entered as Kingston Upon Thames, and his occupation was Brickmaker.
The state he was sent to was Nsw and the ship was the Parkfield.

The approximate year of birth being about 1812 also tallies in with his entry in England and Wales Criminal Registers for years 1791 to 1892, as does his trial date and location.

Re a conditional pardon
NSW State Archives
New South Wales, Australia,Convict Registers of Conditional and Absolute Pardons 1791-1867
The entry for Edmund Galley shows a Conditional Pardon date of 1849
Vessel Name: Parkfield
Pardon Number: 273

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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Abigale's approx year of birth:
From Pilot IGI: Abigale Galley, the wife of William Galley, was buried on 28 May 1823 in Kingston-Upon-Thames, Surrey. She was aged 38 when she died, so she was born around 1784 to 1785.
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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 13:06 GMT (UK) »
IGI extracted record.

Edmund Galley ch. 8.12. 1811 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey

Father William  Mother Abigail

Just checked Pilot IGI and it adds Edmund's birthdate as 15 Nov 1811.

There is also via Pilot IGI another baptism for a female child of a William and Abigail Galley, that being of a daughter "Etherel" but in Speldhurst, in Kent, on 13 January 1805.
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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Most probably William and Abigail's marriage:   :)

From the latest version of the IGI:
William Gally married Abigail Stone on 13 Sep 1803 in the parish of Marden, Kent, England
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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Possible baptism for Abigail - from latest version of IGI.

27 Jun 1784 in parish of Cowden, Kent, England, parents David Stone and Mary.
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Re: Birth Look up Edmund Galley
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

William Galley buried All Saints Kingston upon Thames 14th March 1821 aged 50 (if the correct man Abigail would be a widow on her burial 2 years later)

Baptism same church 28th October 1770
William Galley parents Robert and Elizabeth

There are several Galley Prerogative Court of Canterbury wills for Kingston including one for a Robert, though none of these may be directly related to William. Occupations for the men are given are malster, coal merchant and barge master. William's occupation on his later children's baptisms (last child baptised 11th February 1821 born 18th January and buried 17th June 1821 aged 5 months) was a labourer.

If both his parents died when Edmund was this young no wonder his subsequent early life was tough

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F50D17F83A5B137B93C5A81789D85F4C8784F9


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