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Looking for Margaret Muckersie
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 02:32 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Muckarsie/Muckersie and several other variants was born on 5th March 1836 in Collessie, Fife. She was the daughter of Richard Muckarsie (b abt 1809) and Mary Douglas (b 17 Dec 1805). Margaret had an illegitimate son James born 1 Aug 1859 in Edinburgh. The father was John Mowat a gamekeeper (b abt 1835) from Wick, Caithness.

After the birth of James, mother and son seem to disappear. John Mowat marries Elizabeth Watson on the 3rd Mar 1865 in Dunmore, Airth, Stirling.

James changes his name sometime later to James Mowat (shown on marriage certificate) and marries Jane Smart (b 5 Jan 1859) on 8 Oct 1880 at Ladybank, Collessie, Fife.

James and Jane are my wife's Great grandparents.

Any clues to Margaret's whereabouts after 1st August 1859 would be most helpful!

I tried this before but for some reason the topic was locked and no one could reply.
If the same happens again please PM me so I can get it fixed.

Cheers,
hayalan52
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Re: Looking for Margaret Muckersie
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 June 21 19:00 BST (UK) »
Hi
A Margaret Muckersie, daughter of Richard Muckersie, aged 34 married John Sutherland, colour sergeant in 72 Highlanders, son of Alexander Sutherland at Mhow Bengal India on 26/11/1860.

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Re: Looking for Margaret Muckersie
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 June 21 22:01 BST (UK) »
Hi
A Margaret Muckersie, daughter of Richard Muckersie, aged 34 married John Sutherland, colour sergeant in 72 Highlanders, son of Alexander Sutherland at Mhow Bengal India on 26/11/1860.

Is this John & Margaret Sutherland in Yorkshire

1871 Piece:   4768 Folio:   13Page number:   20
The Barracks ( East York Militia)
John Sutherland 38   Scotland Soldier Staff Sgt. E. Yk
Margaret Sutherland   34 Scotland
Mary A Sutherland 8   Daughter East Indies
Alexander Sutherland 6   Son East Indies
Michael B Sutherland 3   Son Manchester
Emma I Sutherland 11 mths Daughter Beverley Yorkshire

Mary Ann Sutherland Birth 26 Dec 1862
Baptism Date:   26 Jan 1863    Mhow, Bengal, India
Father:   John Sutherland Mother:   Margaret

SUTHERLAND, EMMA  ISABELLA  mmn   MCKARSIE 
GRO Reference: 1870  J Quarter in BEVERLEY  Volume 09D  Page 109

1881 Piece:   4740 Folio:   4 Page Number:   1
Bleachyard Yorkshire
Jno Sutherland   48 Murray Co. Scotland , Police Inspector
Margaret Sutherland   43 Fife Scotland
Michael B. Sutherland   13 Manchester
Emma Sutherland   10 Berverley Yorkshire
William Sutherland   4.  Ditto

1891 Piece:   3907 Folio:   25
John Sutherland   60 Scotland police a officer E R ? insp.
Margaret Sutherland   56 Scotland
William Sutherland   14

This might be William

Wm Sutherland
Pension Admission or Examination Age:   35
Birth Year 1877 Beverley Yorks
Pension Admission or Examination Date:   31 Oct 1912
Discharge Date:   7 Nov
Regiment:   East Yorkshire
Rank:   Sargeant
Regimental Number:   3468

1901 Piece:   4469 Folio:   14 Page Number:   19
Margaret Sutherland   64 widow Lady Banks Fife Scotland, living on own means
Berley Sutherland   32 Manchester
Emma I Sutherland   30 Beverley

Margaret Sutherland age 69
Dec 1908 Sculcoates, Yorkshire East Riding  Volume:   9d Page:   156

EDIT to add

Just noticed that this is an old thread posted by hayalan52  in 2011 so info. may already be known

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Looking for Margaret Muckersie
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 June 21 22:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for posting this info about Margaret Muckersie. We really appreciate it.
My wife did find it in 2017 which was 6 years after I first posted but it is appreciated as she may not have found it
Ballingall, Bett, Bond, Campbell, Clark, Colvil, Dempster, Douglas, Falconer, Gulland, Johnston, Keith, Kinnell, Kirkcaldy, Knox, Law, Lumsden, Marr, Meldrum, Morris,  Mowat, Ness, Nicolson, Scott, Smart, Smith/Smyth, Spooner, Syme/Sim, Taylor, Tracey, Urquhart, Walton,


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Re: Looking for Margaret Muckersie
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 June 21 10:04 BST (UK) »
I was interested in the Muckersie family, because they appear in my DNA matches and I have no idea how we are connected.
Barbara

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Re: Looking for Margaret Muckersie
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 June 21 21:50 BST (UK) »
Oh wow!
Barbara, my wife is a direct descendant of Margaret Muckarsie. Margaret's father Richard married Mary Douglas. Richard and Mary had 7 children between 1834 and 1848. The grandparents of Richard and Mary are as follows:
McCarsie (another spelling), Black,
Forbes, Mather, Douglas, Bruce, Campbell and Gulland
The only line back from there is a Michael Muckarsie marrying Elspet Urquhart in Abdie, Fife on 18 December 1741. That is as far as Leslie has gone on that line. Due to many other lines and not as much time to spend on them as she would like.
So do any of those surnames match yours?
Richard and Mary's daughters married the following:
Margaret m Sutherland
Euphemia unknown
Ann m Bruce
Elisabeth m Gibson
Mary m Speed
If you would like to see our tree on Ancestry please provide your email address and we can send you a link to the tree.
Regards,
Alan & Leslie
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