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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 13:01 GMT (UK) »
 :) After reading thru the thread, I also wonder if the original record book has an ink blot...  ::)

    They do make the transcriptions weird and wonderful, sometimes..
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 13:18 GMT (UK) »
just bookmarking now christmas is finished with and kids are back to school  i might get a bit more time on the PC
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Tax records would show who was paying tax on a property at this time – everyone had to pay tax
Parish records i.e. minuted meetings might shed some more light along with manorial rolls
As Jaywit said could Alice be a widow so thus not Alice Laws
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:37 GMT (UK) »
If it wasn't for the fact that Alice apparently died as a result of childbirth (has the PR burial record been checked to see if a cause of death is mentioned?), I might suggest something a bit left of field ... and that is ... 
William is the illegitimate son of Robert.
Alice is Robert's wife.
The mother of William is not named in the PR.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Alice was 39 at the date of the marriage and 42 when she died 3 years later, so almost certain to be the same Alice not a second wife of the same christian name.[this happens on my tree and has caused some confusion to other researchers who have not looked at the PRs, only the census.]

Have you considered that Robert and Alice were not living together, maybe even living with other partners, ie; the speedy marriage of Robert after Alices death. She[Alice] would still be his wife and the record would have to state that, and also as husband, the father. With his family being so involved with the church, maybe even writing up the records they would take the opportunity to make a note to try and distance him from the child.

Maybe it would be possible to find where they are living, but not being census years the search becomes more difficult.

If you have access  to the PRs[or copy of] then you most probably will be able to see who wrote them.
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Were Alice and William buried in the same grave?

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Was she an inmate in the work house or did she work there,?
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Tephra

It is worth pointing out that Robert Shadforth Senior was Parish Clerk, and Robert Shadforth Junior was not only Sexton, but also a [color=Red
governor[/color] of the Friary Workhouse, Hartlepool.  Clearly the Shadforth family had a fairly high standing in the area and it is possible that one of them was responsible for writing up the Parish Record


.This is a quote from Greensleeves notes, just does not look like it, not sure what happened.
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Tephra

It is worth pointing out that Robert Shadforth Senior was Parish Clerk, and Robert Shadforth Junior was not only Sexton, but also a [color=Red
governor[/color] of the Friary Workhouse, Hartlepool.  Clearly the Shadforth family had a fairly high standing in the area and it is possible that one of them was responsible for writing up the Parish Record


.This is a quote from Greensleeves notes, just does not look like it, not sure what happened.

Viewing the original PR would confirm this wouldn't it?.