Author Topic: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892  (Read 2866 times)

Offline ashenique

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
  • Still searching
    • View Profile
Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« on: Saturday 08 January 11 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Could sks please consider a lookup for me for one Thomas Greenough, tried JUL 1829 Lancashire, England, Sentenced to Transportation

Would love to know the details / I have tried to track down on Thomas Green, aka Greenall, Greenhough, Greenhalgh, Greenough, Greenhow, Greenow......you can see the prob I think...
Ta
muchly


Offline aggiebagwash

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,633
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 January 11 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Could this be him?

Thomas Greenough age 19
Offence: Felony
When and where: Kirkdale 3rd August 1829 I  think that must be the date he appeared in court for sentencing.
Sentence: 7 years
How disposed of: can't read it but it looks like b@l 8 December 1829. I wonder if that's the date when the ship arrived?


Date received: 27th August 1829
Ship: York
Moored at: Portsmouth


Margaret  :D

Offline ashenique

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
  • Still searching
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 January 11 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Margaret
That was brilliant and quick.
Not sure about the b@l - maybe shorthand code for something - will try to think about that one.
But yes I think this is him.
Ta
Ashe

Offline aggiebagwash

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,633
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 January 11 21:06 GMT (UK) »
All the teminology was on the record. I tried enlarging it but still couldn't read it.

I think it's where the ship was going. The others on the page are going to NSW. So now you need to find somewhere with b@l. It could read BDL or BSL.


Sorted it. It's VDL. Phew!!! I  had to read quite a number of pages until I found one that was clear enough to decifer.So the ship was going to Tasmania. Is that any help?

Margaret


Offline aggiebagwash

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,633
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 January 11 08:28 GMT (UK) »
There are a few Greenough's listed on the Prison Register appearing at  Kirkdale Court and then being transported. I wonder if they are related?

Margaret

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,124
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 January 11 08:54 GMT (UK) »
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline aggiebagwash

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,633
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 January 11 10:57 GMT (UK) »
What the heck does it mean? I can read the odd word or two but can't make sense of it. Does it say really bad singer?

Margaret

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,124
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 January 11 11:07 GMT (UK) »
He arrived VDL on the Mary 9 April 1830. Sentenced Lancaster 3 August 1839. 7 years.

Transpd for Felony
Gaol report unknown
Hulk report very bad. Single
Stated this offence stealing ducks. Single
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline aggiebagwash

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,633
    • View Profile
Re: Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 January 11 11:13 GMT (UK) »
I thought it said that but couldn't believe he got 7 years.

I wonder why there is a difference in ships? If he arrived in VDL on the Mary in April what happened to him when he arrived on the York in December? I suppose that the only way to find out is to research what happened at the time. Maybe they were held off shore on the Mary until accommodation was built.

Margaret