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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 13 January 11 01:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Althea,maybe new threads with the word Brickwall in the title,with the name, we all know what helpful lot are on the board

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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 13 January 11 01:44 GMT (UK) »
For Suzy



Rose Ethel or Ethel Anne she was sometimes known, married a Herbert Thomas Clements abt 1912 who happened to be the Mayor of Otahuhu. He died in London a day before coming home to New Zealand, but not certain on the date, it will be after her death date of 1953, and I think he remarried.
It would be nice to make contact with any relations of hers to sort out what really happened.


Hi Suzy

The marriage for Rose Ethel shows as follows on NZ BDM online.  (Interestingly, it only comes up if you search on grooms name ??)   ::)

1912

Hubert* Thomas CLEMENTS
Ethel Rose LIBEAU - c.k.a.  LYALL


It appears that the husband's first name was "Hubert"  (rather than "Herbert") ... but seems from Rose's headstone inscription, that he was known as "Thomas".  ;D

I'm guessing that you already have a note of Rose's burial at Otahuhu Cemetery?   (Her headstone gives the names of her son and daughter).

The plot next to Rose's, gives information for an ashes burial for a "Herbert Thomas CLEMENTS - died 8 October 1955 - aged 69 years".
The M/I though reads ... " ILMO  Hubert [sic] Thomas CLEMENTS"  ....
{The [sic] seems to have been inserted by the transcriber of this record ? }

As there is no record of a death in NZ for this "Hubert" or "Herbert" CLEMENTS, it seems then to fit the story you have that this man died in England.

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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 13 January 11 01:48 GMT (UK) »
continued   ...

Hubert (Herbert) Thomas CLEMENTS :

Archives New Zealand (Auckland Office) also have a probate record for the following (which very likely is the man buried at Otahuhu Cemetery) ?

CLEMENTS - Hubert Thomas
Bucklands Beach - Builder - 1955


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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 13 January 11 01:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Suzy,

This looks like his death on FreeBDM's

Deaths Dec 1955   
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Clements  Herbert T  69  Paddington  5d 144

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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 13 January 11 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Althea and Janette,
Re name of thread -  perhaps we have got to the stage where we need a separate sub-board for "Lookup requests" as many English boards have  ???

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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 13 January 11 01:53 GMT (UK) »
For Suzy

This may possibly be the son of Rose Ethel  ?

Death

2004 - CLEMENTS - Arnold Thomas - d.o.b.  28 July 1914


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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 13 January 11 02:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lucy.

You have dug up a bit more than what I could find.
The other child of Rose was Jean Clements.
Yes I did have Hurbert, then I thought this must be a mistake and should be Herbert.  He was born in Tasmania. I would presume he was cremated and returned to New Zealand?

I am a little puzzled to why Rose took on the name Lyall, when her mother married a Hall and her birth under Libeau, a lady with many names.

Suzy W
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add

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Henry Cheetham Jackson
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 13 January 11 04:57 GMT (UK) »
Born Abt. 1860 England
Died Abt. 06 May 1925 Gisborne, New Zealand

Married Abra Mary Frances Harrison 1895

Had 4 children to her

He had at least 2 other children to a previous relationship with a Maori lass know as either Teo Harepe Tamati or Rutu Te Onarepe Tamati.  Neither of these children had his last name but went by the last name of Fox.

No idea who his parents are or where he was born or when he came to NZ.  I have found references to his at Archives and at Papers Past saying he was a trustee.

Have found his burial on the Gisborne Council Cemetery Search.

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Re: Does anyone need help with brickwalls (that don't require offsite lookups)
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 13 January 11 05:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kiwigirl
freebmd uk
Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page

Jackson  Henry Cheetham     Saffron Walden  4a 361
Births Mar 1858

BYe
Althea