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Re: Looking for marriage and birth record
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 December 20 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the update - Rose's signature certainly looks similar
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Re: Looking for marriage and birth record
« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 December 20 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this may have been posted previously

Rose Tamar Prior otherwise Rose Eltham of 11 Fifth Avenue Manor Park (wife of John Henry Prior)  Died   20 Mar 1943 Whipps Cross Hospital Keystone Essex
Administration (with Will)
Probate 5 Oct 1943 to   John Henry Prior (The Elder) retired carpenter and John Henry Prior (the younger) builders general foreman
Effects £1372 19s 7d 
edited to remove some detail as added wrong probate names  - looking at the prior death below Roses entry ::)

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Rose Eltham Age:   78
Mar 1943 essex South Western
Volume:   4a Page:   340

Henry Eltham of 11 Fifth Avenue East Ham
Died   6 Mar 1941 Probate Sep 1941 to Rose Eltham widow
Effects £937 10s 7d
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Re: Looking for marriage and birth record
« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 December 20 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the two probate entries I hadn't seen them.

So it seems that when Henry Eltham died, Rose claimed to be his widow as if legally married. She would have the certificate of the bigamous 1904 marriage to support her claim.
Then when Rose died it was as Rose Prior (with Rose Eltham as alternative name) with probate to her real husband, who would be able to prove it with the 1884 marriage certificate.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Looking for marriage and birth record
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 December 20 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Just looked again at the 1911 census for the Prior household to see what I can make of son Albert.

There is a marriage for a Albert William Prior age 23 bac, soldier in Gt Ilford on 29 Jan 1917, father John Henry Prior carpenter. Bride is Florence Victoria Woolmer 22 spinster. A John Henry Prior is a witness, could be father or brother. Signature looks similar but not sure. On marriage JHP spelt Henry as Henery.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Looking for marriage and birth record
« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 December 20 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Just looked again at the 1911 census for the Prior household to see what I can make of son Albert.

There is a marriage for a Albert William Prior age 23 bac, soldier in Gt Ilford on 29 Jan 1917, father John Henry Prior carpenter. Bride is Florence Victoria Woolmer 22 spinster.

A John Henry Prior is a witness, could be father or brother.

Signature looks similar but not sure. On marriage JHP spelt Henry as Henery.

Have you checked 1939 register for John H Prior & Albert W Prior?

Did Albert remarry?

Albert W Prior
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec 1934
Registration District:   Brentford
Inferred County:   Middlesex
Spouse:   I V Whiting (not given full name as not established her death
Volume Number:   3a
Page Number:   645

Albert William Prior
I Prior
R Prior
M Prior
Electoral Date:   1933/39
Street Address:   7 Munton Road
   


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