penfolds gurlings yard

[topazmay]

hi  i have just joined, as i have recentley got some info on my family. My grandad was freddy penfold born in gurlings yeard battersea. born 6 july 1921. his dad frederick a flower seller  and marride mary ann  they had 6 children.
I have been told that boney born in 1869 in hounslow was a licencesed hawker. he was a fine wagon builder and built serveral Vardos (wagon) there is a story that after months of building the wagons were pulled out only for them to find they were to tall to fit under the arches  and had to take the wheels off!!
other family members are  Billy Bowls(william penfold) queen elizabeth better known as queenie charity  better known as bluey i wish i had known them they sound such great characters

[suzard]

Hello and welcome to RootsChat

It's great when you hear stories about ancestors -through family history you do "get to know" them

Do you have information on your family or is there anything you would like looking up??

I had a little search -and is this your family?

Birth reg
Frederick H Penfold
mother's maiden name Anderson
Sept qtr 1921
Wandsworth reg dist
1d 892

Death reg
Frederick Henry Penfold
born 6 July 1921
death reg Nov 1984
age 63
Wandsworth reg dist
15 938

if this is your Frederick's birth and  death reg

then this could be his parents marriage

Parish Church of St Saviours Battersea Park London
marriage after Banns
16 Aug 1915
Frederick Penfold age 18 bachelor of Mills Yard Sheepcote lane occupation Flower seller father Frederick Penfold Occupation Flower Seller
married
Mary Ann Anderson age 21 of Mills Yard Sheepcote lane father Thomas Anderson occupation Flower Seller
Frederick and Mary Ann signes

witesses Robert penfold and Ida Penfold -both made their mark

Suz

[topazmay]

thanks for that yes thats my family my grandad and my great grandad. I have some ghreat phots of the horse cart and flowers will add them on soon. How exciting!!!!!

[t mo]

hello topazmay
and welcome to rootschat from me also .

will look forward to seeing your photos they sound like a rare bunch of characters i wonder how many blokes have built something and then found for one reason or another it,s too big to get out of some where  it,s a man thing you know !!!
trevor
ps no i haven,t done it YET  but haven,t lost the chance !

[micha54178]

This may be a long shot, but most the my tracing seems to be so far...
I have a Fredrick Penfold, marrying Priscilla Thompson - mainly in the Hampshire area,
Their son Henry was born 21st Aug 1911 in Hampshire, who the married Rhoda Hearn. I'm hoping that some of these names might connect with something?

Thanks

[Joanne19721972]

Hi ya I just came across this post an I think maryann anderson was my grandad sister I know my grandad parents were joe anderson an rebecca botton would love to know more about them hope to hear bk from u x

[Ladyhawk]

Hi ya I just came across this post

I think maryann anderson was my grandad sister

I know my grandad parents were joe anderson an rebecca botton

would love to know more about them hope to hear bk from u x

Hello and welcome to Rootschat this thread was started in 2011 by topazmay who has not been active since then.

The Mary ann Anderson that married Frederick Penfold her father is named Thomas and she was born 1893

This is Mary with her parents on 1901 census

Piece:   441 Folio:   174 Page Number:   53
Thomas Anderson   32
Rebecca Anderson   29
Thomas Anderson   10
Mary A Anderson   8 Battersea, London

Parish Church of St Saviours Battersea Park London
marriage after Banns
16 Aug 1915
Frederick Penfold age 18 bachelor of Mills Yard Sheepcote lane occupation Flower seller father Frederick Penfold Occupation Flower Seller

married

Mary Ann Anderson age 21 of Mills Yard Sheepcote lane
father Thomas Anderson occupation Flower Seller
Frederick and Mary Ann signes

witesses Robert penfold and Ida Penfold -both made their mark

Do you have your Grandfather on any census with his parents and sister?

What is his name and when was he born?

Rootschat policy ask not post names of known living persons.

There’s this marriage

Thomas ANDERSON Age: 20 Hawker Mills Yard Sheepcote Lane
father Joseph Anderson occ hawker
Marriage 17 Mar 1890 St Saviour, Battersea, Wandsworth, England
Spouse:   Rebecca BOTTON 19 Wheelers Yard Sheepcote Lane
father Henry Botton occ hawker
Witnesses to marriage James BOTTON & Patience Wheeler

[Ladyhawk]

Joanne19721972 - when you next visit Rootschat  please let us know if any of the details posted relate to your Anderson / Botton family and if you require any further help 

Free 1911 census available via familysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW5H-T97 show Thomas & Rebecca with 6 children

Thomas Anderson   Head 42   Wandsworth, London
Rebecca Anderson   Wife   40   Penge, Surrey
Thomas Anderson   Son   20   Battersea London, London
Mary Ann Anderson dau   18   Battersea London
Rebecca Anderson   Dau   11   Battersea London
Patience Anderson   Dau    8   Foots Cray, Kent
Joseph Anderson   Son    4   Battersea London, London
Caroline Anderson   Dau    2

GRO indexes give mother's maiden name - this is Mary's birth entry

Mary Ann ANDERSON mmn BOTTON
1893  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 619

Mary Ann Anderson
Baptism 5 Feb 1893 Baptism Battersea St Saviour, Wandsworth
Father: Thomas Anderson, occ Hawker  Mother:   Rebecca abode Wheeler's Yard Sheepcote Lane

Here's the baptism of Thomas & Joseph

Thomas Anderson
Baptism 19 Apr 1891 Battersea St Saviour, Wandsworth
Father:   Thomas Anderson occ hawker Mother: Rebecca abode Mills Yard Sheepcote Lane

Joseph Anderson Born 8 Feb 1907
Baptism    24 Feb 1907 St Saviour, Battersea, Wandsworth
Father:   Thomas Anderson occ hawker  Mother: Rebecca, abode 80 Sheepcote Lane

[Joanne19721972]

Hi yes I have censors with my grandad Joseph anderson an his sister maryann anderson an the others on it his father was thomas anderson an mother rebecca botton have u any more info on there children an the other brothers an sisters