Hibbets & Daisleys from Gamlingay area

[RobinIrvine]

Hi there

I use genes, I'm one of the three and the other two linked to me and have copied data from my tree.

I did go for Percy's dob cert

DOB 24th June 1899 Gamlingay. father William Daisley & mother Rhoda Daisley NEE Hibbett.

It all seems to tie in. There is a family story that Olive did not grow up with the family, lived with an "auntie", which I think why it's been hard to tie everything in properly.

Rhoda did not pass until the 1950's, but no one from the Olive line knew her.

Thanks again for coming back to me.

Best regards
Robin

[Selina]

Olive Daisley was baptised at Caxton 1 August 1912
daughter of (blank) and Rhoda (nee Hibbit) of Caxton Union.

Florence Daisley was baptised at Caxton 25 October 1911
daughter of (blank) and Rhoda married woman of Caxton Union

Lilian Daisley was batised at Caxton 6 February 1905
daughter of (blank) and Rhoda of the Union Caxton

Harry Thomas Daisley was baptised at Gamlingay 28 October 1917
of William and Rhoda otp lab

Selina

[RobinIrvine]

Good morning, thank you for your interest and info....

The above is brill and very interesting......

I did have the birth details of Percy Daisley

DOB 24th June 1899 Gamlingay. father William Daisley & mother Rhoda Daisley NEE Hibbett.

Using your info and the above it means that William daisley was around in 1899, missing around 17 years and then returned to father Harry !!!!!

It raises more questions about this part of my tree

- Where was William
- If the girls were illegitimate, why did William come back at all at the time of Harry
- Why is Rhoda always alone in the census records

Cant make sense of it.

Your info now means I can take people of my maybe list and add to my as firm, thank you for that.

Robin


added****
Bedfordshire boy, above talked of Ronald. Just found him on freebmd Ronald Daisley 1919 Caxton 3b 02, Mothers maiden name Hibbett.
Would be interesting to know if the father is named on the bap record.
thanks very much
Robin

[bedfordshire boy]

Rhoda Daisley died in the March quarter 1954 in Cambridge registration district aged 75.

[Selina]

I can't see a baptism for either Percy or Ronald.

As William was of Tetworth, Hunts when he married Rhoda I assume he was working there.  Maybe had no suitable accommodation for a family.  However that does not explain why he is missing 1901 and 1911 - jail, military, abroad?

1901 she is 'Head' of household, sometimes indicates more permanent state that husband just away for the night, but not necessarily so.

1911 living with her father. in between (and after census) seems to have been in the Union,  maybe for short periods re the births.

When a Lilian Daisley married at Gamlingay in 1930 aged 26 her father is stated as William.

Quite a puzzle!

Selina

[RobinIrvine]

Thanks to all again,

** I do have the death cert for Rhoda and your details confirm I have the right one. Death 26/March/1954 Gamlingay. Identified as the widow of William Daisley. Informant H T Daisley, I think her son Harry.

Being identified as Williams widow would tell me that she never married again and that possibly that until William died she was with him......

I hope good assumptions...... I've never found a death record for a William daisley pre 1954 !!!!!

** It's interesting that Percy & Ronald were not baptised... I wonder why Percy was not baptised when each of the girls were ??

"Union" does this mean work house or similar ??

again - thanks to all who have posted.

cheers
Robin

[Selina]

Caxton Union Workhouse
http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhouses/england/cambs/caxton_workhouse.htm

There was a William Richard Daisley buried Gamlingay 1946 aged 76.  His address was given as 29 Union Lane, Chesterton which was also a workhouse but became a hospital when the N.H.S. was formed, it was probably serving as a hospital prior to that.

If you visit Cambridgeshire Archives web site and go to the catalogue search page
http://calm.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/ArchiveCatalogue/SearchArchives.htm
Type in Caxton and Arrington Board of Guardians and look at item 120.  Register of births 1866 to 1914.

It may be worth contacting them to see if there is any information in that register that would help you.   For contact details http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/

Selina

[RobinIrvine]

Selina,

Thank you for coming back to me and for the direction. I will put a request into the 'Historical research service' for info on the three females, hopefully it will reveal something.

I've just found the William Daisley death you mentioned, Cambs vol 4a page 176. I don't know what records you are looking at, but does it provide informant ? This William would tie into 1870 OK, but I can't find a birth for a William R Daisley, are you able to find a bap record for him, it might give parents names.

This William is being very allusive......

thanks again
robin

[Selina]

Things seem to get cloudier rather than clearer don't they?!

I can't see a baptism for a William Richard Daisley in Cambridgeshire.

Other details are of burial record, died 12 October 1946, Ag. lab.  Buried 17th.  Apart from his age, address and grave number, that is all.

However!  When Harry Daisley married (no second name or initial) 27 December 1948 (aged 31 which fits) to Mollie Gillet at Gamlingay, his father was given as William Richard, land worker. Did not say deceased but then it doesn't always.   Witnesses were R. Daisley and P. Daisley, unfortunate that the first names are not given.

Selina