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Kitty Langham
« on: Sunday 23 January 11 16:39 GMT (UK) »
I am doing a bit of research for a friend but have hit a bit of a brick wall.
Her mother was born Kitty (kathleen) Langham. Kitty left her daughter with her own mother and she had no further contact. Ann heard from relatives that she was known as Kitty Frangleton.
Kitty Langham was born in Pontypridd, Wales in 1921.
Her mother's maiden name was Llewellyn. I have found a Kitty Frangleton who married a Nerbert Lomax in 1979 in Hyndburn, Lancashire. Strangely her death seems to be registered twice, once as Kitty Lomax and once as Kitty Frangleton in 2000 in Hyndburn, same reference numbers.
What I cannot find is any marriage to a Frangleton. Kitty Lomax/Frangleton was born around the right time but I am just not sure if I have the right lady. Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong?
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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 January 11 19:23 GMT (UK) »

Hi Cazza47,

I don't think there is any reason at all to assume that you
are going wrong. :)

There is no marriage to Frangleton to be found for Langham
in England or Wales, and the family info you have says
'known as' rather than 'married to'.

My father appears in the death indexes twice. Because of an
'also known as' name on his death certificate he is listed
under both names in the index, but of course with the same
reference number. I think the death certificate will name
Kitty as 'Lomax also known as Frangleton'.

It is probably important to your friend to have sight of
all Kitty's B M & D certs at this stage.

What name she gave for her father on marriage would be
particularly interesting.


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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 January 11 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that, I thought I had gone off in the wrong direction, so easy to do with ancestry.
Carol
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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 October 14 13:38 BST (UK) »
Up date on my search, now have Kitty's marriage certificate to Herbert Lomax in 1979, her status is 'previous marriage dissolved' so she must have been married to a Frangleton, but still cannot find anything.
Anyone any suggestions where to look next please?
Carol
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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 October 14 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Have you looked for a marriage somewhere other than England or Wales? Could she have married in Scotland/Ireland or abroad?

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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 October 14 15:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for reply.
I have checked Scotlandspeople, no joy, have checked on ancestry for marriages any where but no joy. I thought perhaps she may have married more than once before her marriage to Herbert but cannot find any marriages for her. Tried Kathleen but she was christened Kitty it is on her birth certificate. She was an illusive lady in life and seems to be the same in death!
Carol
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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 October 14 15:18 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for a divorce?  Only England and Wales here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/divorce-further-research.htm


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 October 14 15:32 BST (UK) »
They seem to only be divorces up to 1911, Kitty had a child in 1942 when she was still Langham, interestingly there is a photo of her in a military uniform but I cannot find anything about that. She went on to become a state enrolled nurse.
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Re: Kitty Langham
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 October 14 15:41 BST (UK) »
Ancestry have them up to 1911; TNA up to 1937 (I think) but there is guidance on how to find records after that.

Her service record would still be with MOD, copies cost 30;  useful posting by millymcb:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0

Not sure about records for a nurse but that line might also be worth exploring.


Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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