COMPLETED - Elizabeth Archer death reg and where abouts in 1891

[suzard]

Hi wozzle on original request Karen also states (words to the effect) that Elizabeth had a son Joseph J Archer 1891 - I don't think Joseph J was her son - Elizabeth would be too old!!! and Joseph J's surname seems to be Green!!

1891
Wilstone Herts
Joseph Archer Head Wdr 65 Farm lab
Emily daughter U 14 Straw Plaiter
George Green Boarder M General Plaiter
Ruth Green wife 23
Thomas W Archer son 2
Joseph J Green Son 2mths

all b in Herts
RG12 1127 186 10
There are a lot of crossings out on image

it seems
Thomas W Archer age 2 and Joseph J Green 2mths are the children of George and Ruth Green ( Thomas possibly born before marriage

1901 census they are listed as children of George William Green and Ruth and Thomas W Archer is then using the name Green

Suz

[suzard]

Isn't this more likely to be Elizabeth's death reg??

Elizabeth Archer
age 58
mar qtr 1891
Berkhampstead
3a 403

Suz

[klnunn293]

Thanks everyone

I think you have sorted me out.

Thought Thomas and Joseph were born very late but couldn't get my head around it.

Thanks for all your help

Karen

[suzard]

Marriage reg FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1890
Berkhamstead
on same page
Ruth Archer
george Green
3a 905

so Joseph J Archer would have been born before they married

Suz

[klnunn293]

Suz

So Thomas W was born before marriage then Joesph J after.

[Ladyhawk]

Marriage reg FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1890
Berkhamstead
on same page
Ruth Archer
george Green
3a 905

It would appear from 1861 census that Ruth GREEN nee ARCHER bn 1869 Wilston from 1891 census is the daughter of Joseph bn 1829 & Elizabeth ARCHER bn 1834 Puttenham

1861 RG10 Piece:1391 Folio:90 Page:9     

Thomas W was born before marriage then Joesph J after.

Looks as if he was
FreeBMD

Dec q 1888 Berkhamstead 3a 593
Thomas William G ARCHER

Mar q 1891 Berkhamstead 3a 643
Joseph James GREEN

[klnunn293]

Yes Ladyhawk

That is correct.

Again, thank you all very much for all your hard work in sorting me out

Many thanks

Karen

[suzard]

Suz

So Thomas W was born before marriage then Joesph J after.

It seems so

Birth reg FreeBMD
Thomas William G Archer
Dec qtr 1888
Berkhampstead
3a 393


it is just a guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if the initial "G"  = Green
then the Archer name was dropped after marriage -just a guess!!!

Marriage Dec qtr 1890 of george and Ruth

Birth reg freeBMD
Joseph James Green
Mar qtr 1891
Berkhampstead
3a 643

so most likely Joseph James would be on the way when they married

Suz

[klnunn293]

That makes sense Suz.  Thanks for all the researching

Karen