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1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Evening,

Would anyone be kind enough to do a couple of lookups for me please?

I'm trying to locate one William Arnold on the 1841 and 1851 Census. The particulars in common for both are as follows:

Name: William Arnold (Although I'm wondering if his surname has been mistranscribed)
Born: c. 1801 (Thereabouts)
Trade: Either Porter/Barman/Victualler
Place of birth: Lancashire (possibly Speke or Arbury)


As for the 1841 Census, I anticipate he may be single, whereas on the 1851 Census, I am expecting him to have two sons; James and William (born c. 1843 and c. 1845 respectively). His wife, if there is one, may well be called Jane and they may well be in the Exchange ward of Liverpool, Great Crosshall Street area...

Any assistance appreciated thanks!

Paul

Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: 1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 January 11 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Hello Paul,
What information do you have for you to suggest his wife is Jane,

the only William I have found as yet marrying a Jane is in 1861,to late for yours,

do you have them in later census returns,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: 1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 January 11 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi there is a William Arnold born Liverpiol wife Sarah with at least a son William at 92a Oxford Street Manchester
Mary Hadfield a relative
Census ref HO107/2220/0/0
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Re: 1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 January 11 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Trying to piece things together whilst waiting on an 1846 birth certificate for a William Arnold, born in Liverpool who is my great, great grandfather. His 1871 marriage certificate states that his father was also William Arnold, who was a Barman by trade.

Appear to have found him on the 1861 Census, widowed, and living with a brother named Joseph who was a Victualler by trade, living on Marlborough Street in Liverpool. His two sons on the 1861 Census (James and William) are Carters by trade, which ties in, as this was what my G,G Grandfather William was.

Perhaps jumping the gun regarding potential wife's name of Jane, so should be ignored!!

Working my way back from my Great grandfather; his son Henry (b. 1874), but have William for definite on the 1871 census living with his future wife (my g,G Grandmother) and her family.

Paul
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: 1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 January 11 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Paul ...a possible for you... www.lancashirebmd.org.uk   1838 to 1843 (going by the date of birth of the first child )...only ONE marriage for a William Arnold to a JANE

William Arnold to Jane Murray 1842 in St Michael in the City church    Liverpool     2054LP/1/398
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Re: 1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 January 11 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Good one Allan ,one leed to look up now,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: 1841/51 William Arnold, Lancashire - Lookup request
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 January 11 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Evening Allan,

Thanks. I had located this marriage a couple of years back, but for some reason had never chased it up.

In any case, I visited the RO after work this evening to check it, only to find that the majority of their marriage records, including, as is always the case, the period in which this record was grouped was destroyed when the church was bombed during WWII.

So, that rules out checking it for free...will have to order it from the GRO, so will wait to see what comes from the birth certificate enquiry/order I've made.

I seem to have located William's death though today...aged 80 in 1881, recorded in Liverpool, which ties in with the implied 1801 year of birth for the 1841 and 1851 Census returns I'm trying to locate.

Paul
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland