Thomas Ward & Mary ?? Marriage - Bluntisham or Witchford?

[tracerstlm]

I have had no luck in finding a marriage between Thomas Ward (b. 1798 in Fenstanton) and Mary ?? (b. abt 1800 in Bluntisham).  They are living in Witchford by the 1841 census with children Thomas (b. 1826), William (b. 1830), Daniel (b. 1835) and Rose Ann (b. 1842).  There is also a stepson, Thomas Isberton (b. abt 1822).  I am trying to confirm when Thomas Ward married Mary and which children are hers.  I have not found baptism records on any of the children nor marriage records for Thomas and Mary nor Mary and a Mr. ?? Isberton.  BMD database on Ancestry.com doesn't seem to have any of them.  Any help much appreciated! 

Regards,

Tracy

[lizdb]

as Rose Ann was born aftr 1837 she should have a birth cert .. which should clarify MAry's maiden name

[bedfordshire boy]

Cambs Baptism Index at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html , which I gave you on the other board, shows Daniel and earlier children to be the children of Thomas and Ann, not Mary. But in 1851 they have William 20 born Littleport and the baptism index has an 1830 baptism of William Ward, son of Thomas and Mary at Littleport. Very odd!

On the face of it Mary's name should be Isberton but there are no references to that name that I can find

I agree with lizdb

David

Still working on it, but must dash now as I have a rendezvous with a barman

[tracerstlm]

Yes, I have gone in so many directions I'm getting confused!  William is my concern, I have not been able to get confirmation on the mother from my contact in Littleport and he's before 1837 so I cannot get a birth certificate from the GRO.  I ordered his marriage certificate, so I finally have definitive confirmation that his father is Thomas, but the mother eludes me.  The search continues and I will follow both your suggestions!  Thanks for the help!   

[tracerstlm]

This is definitely strange.  I'm not getting any hits on the earlier children at all except for Daniel, son of Thomas and Ann and William, son of Thomas and Mary.  I don't know why only William was born in Littleport.  His sister, Edith, marries and lives in Littleport and raises William's daughter, Elizabeth.  Sorry to repeat, I've been focused on a million other lines and just came back to this one following some great Ward family discoveries in Fenstanton! 

Thanks again!  :-)

[anneb]

I've had a quick look at Bluntisham and Witchford PRs on fiche but no luck with the marriage-Bluntisham doesn't have an index which didn't help.

[Selina]

There is a marriage at Witchford on 3 December 1832 between Thomas Ward widr otp and Mary Saberton wid otp, witnesses John Ward and William Haylock.

Selina

[bedfordshire boy]

Nice one Selina! Saberton was not a variation that had occurred to me!

Per Cambs baptism index Thomas Saberton baptised at Ely in 1821 son of Thomas & Mary

Burial of Thomas Saberton age 29 in Witcham on 16 Aug 1828 (per NBI)

Thomas Saberton and Mary didn't marry in Hunts (Hunts Marriage Index)

There are trees on Ancestry which show Mary as being Mary Youngs, married at Ely on 10 Mar 1821, which would tie in with Thomas Saberton's birthplace in 1851. But there are others which show her as Mary Lakin. The Ely alleged marriage seems to be favourite; at least it gives an exact date, but it doesn't show which parish in Ely it took place.

David

[Selina]

Hi David,

It was Ely St. Mary.  Same as the Thomas baptism.

 I looked at that but it throws up another puzzle really.

Says that Mary Youngs was commonly called BRUFF and marks Bruff.

Witnesses were Mansfield Saberton and John Ellis.

Later in the year Mansfield Saberton marries a Sarah Bruff, witnesses John Ellis and John Ellis jun

Selina