Author Topic: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys  (Read 8356 times)

Offline GillyJ

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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 16 February 11 22:52 GMT (UK) »
This is a sheer fluke, but while exploring my own ancestors I found this name - Cerrigceinwch, Anglesey - and this does look more like the original script. Cerrug meaning stones and ceinwch maybe a description or farm name.Good Luck!!

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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 February 11 22:53 GMT (UK) »
I meant Cerrig but the ceinwch bit does not look as clear when I re-examine the text

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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 February 11 09:27 GMT (UK) »
thank you hanes teulu, i have found Ceirchiog on an 1833 map and at the moment that seems the closest to me. I will try and find a john wood there. Thanks GillyJ for your help.

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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 February 11 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Traffwll,
You'll find several hits on Google for Conysiog - including  references to "Conysiog Lys" in 2 collections at Bangor University Archives (listed via ArchivesWales): Plas Coch Manuscripts and Penrhos Manuscripts.
Other hits give an indication to its location and origin of the name.

Hwyl,
Llew.
Jones, Hughes, Williams & Evans  - Rhyd Ddu, Arfon
Jones - Pentraeth & Traeth Coch, Ynys Mon/Anglesey


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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 February 11 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you llywelyn, yes i had seen those in fact as a result i am very interested in the Penrhos files as I believe another of the ancestors of Traffwll was related to the Penrhos families and they list deeds of land in llanfiangel Yn Nhyown. I preferred the Ceirchiog connection as it is in the parish of Llechylched and a neighbour to Traffwll whereas Conysiog is in the parish of Llanfaelog but you never know.

Many thanks for your interest

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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 20:35 GMT (UK) »
I have this from a deed dated 20 October 1647. Roland Meredith (of Traffwll) and sons to John Wood of a parcel of land (about 2 acres) in the parish and hamlet of Llechylched in the township of  Conishioglys between the land of John Wood called Erw Gwnion.

Does anyone know of Conishioglys or Erw Gwnion please.

I don't know when this message was posted but 'Conishioglys and variants such as Conysiog-Lys refer to Pencarnisiog. In the medaeival and early modern period the administrative units were refered to as Conysiog-Lys ( the the 'Llys ' or Court of Pencarnisiog ) or Conysiog-Lan ( the 'Llan' or church lands of Pencarnisiog).
Conysiog means the lands of one called 'Conws'. Historians believe the original Conws was probably Irish as the name is Irish in form.
Llanfair-yng-Nghornwy was also called Cornwy-lys and Cornwy-Lan.

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Re: Llechylched in the township of Conishioglys
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 24 February 11 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Dafydd Gwilym many thanks for posting your reply, solves that problem.